On Jun 17, 2012, at 0:12, Kiss Gábor wrote:

> Would you mind to check page http://www.pool.ntp.org/user/kissg ?

Thank you for having marked your profile public.  I try not to put peoples IPs 
and such on the list when we discuss things unless they've done so, and 
obviously having specific cases to talk about is much more productive.

> 1. Please compare IPv4 and IPv6 grapsh.
> Can you see the different characteristics?

Yes, I think it's a good example of how IPv4 routing and connectivity is just 
better (still).  Also, I think there are some local IPv6 problems by the 
monitoring server I am trying to figure out with the help of the bandwidth 
provider.

Here is an IPv4 traceroute, after running for about 10-15 minutes.  Notably the 
"standard deviation" (in ping times) is very small.  The slowest round trip 
(186.3) to the destination is just 9ms slower than the fastest and the average 
(177.8) just 0.5ms slower than the fastest (177.3).  Very stable.

                                                         Packets               
Pings
 Host                                                   Loss%  Last   Avg  Best 
 Wrst StDev
 1. fe2-8.hr01.lax2.phyber.com                           0.0%   0.8  10.9   0.5 
201.3  35.3
 2. xe1-1.cr02.lax1.phyber.com                           0.0%   0.7   2.9   0.6 
120.9  11.0
 3. ge-6-24-284.car2.LosAngeles1.Level3.net              0.0%   0.6   4.2   0.5 
 62.6  10.5
 4. vlan60.csw1.LosAngeles1.Level3.net                   0.0%   1.3   3.9   0.6 
 13.2   3.8
 5. ae-63-63.ebr3.LosAngeles1.Level3.net                 0.0%   1.3   1.3   0.6 
  6.8   0.7
 6. 4.69.132.82                                          0.0%  66.7  66.0  64.6 
 82.7   2.1
 7. ae-71-71.csw2.Washington1.Level3.net                 0.0%  73.3  68.5  64.6 
 94.9   4.1
 8. ae-72-72.ebr2.Washington1.Level3.net                 0.0%  66.0  65.6  64.6 
 69.3   0.6
 9. ae-44-44.ebr2.Paris1.Level3.net                      0.0% 144.1 144.7 144.0 
156.6   1.1
    ae-42-42.ebr2.Paris1.Level3.net
    ae-41-41.ebr2.Paris1.Level3.net
    ae-43-43.ebr2.Paris1.Level3.net
10. ae-46-46.ebr1.Frankfurt1.Level3.net                  0.0% 154.8 153.4 152.7 
160.4   0.9
    ae-48-48.ebr1.Frankfurt1.Level3.net
11. ae-1-12.bar1.Budapest1.Level3.net                   12.9% 168.5 170.8 167.2 
230.7   8.9
12. ae-0-11.bar2.Budapest1.Level3.net                    7.2% 168.6 170.6 168.3 
278.9   9.0
13. dialup-212.162.26.186.frankfurt1.mik.net             0.0% 169.2 169.5 168.7 
207.7   2.7
14. be13.rtr1.vh.hbone.hu                                0.0% 183.7 179.7 179.0 
193.6   1.1
15. vl799.sw.b1.vh.hbone.hu                              0.0% 179.5 179.6 178.5 
250.2   4.2
16. cirkusz.lvs.iif.hu                                   0.0% 177.6 177.8 177.3 
186.3   0.8


Now IPv6, running 30 seconds or so already shows much "messier" data:

                                                          Packets               
Pings
 Host                                                   Loss%  Last   Avg  Best 
 Wrst StDev
 1. fe2-8.hr01.lax2.phyber.com                           0.0%   1.4   1.6   0.7 
  4.6   0.9
 2. 2607:f238:0:10::2                                    0.0%   1.8   1.3   0.8 
  3.1   0.6
 3. xe2-3.cr02.lax1.phyber.com                           0.0%   0.8   6.6   0.8 
 96.2  21.2
 4. 2607:f238:0:14::2                                    0.0%   0.8   1.4   0.8 
  2.1   0.4
 5. 2001:504:13::1a                                      0.0%   1.5   3.9   0.8 
 13.1   3.3
 6. 10gigabitethernet7-3.core1.sjc2.he.net               0.0%   9.2  11.7   9.2 
 20.0   3.0
 7. sjo-eqx-s1-link.telia.net                            0.0%   9.1  11.0   9.0 
 29.5   4.7
 8. bpt-b4-v6.telia.net                                  0.0% 192.9 197.6 189.8 
241.1  13.7
 9. 2001:2000:3080:17::2                                 0.0% 198.3 196.6 194.1 
198.4   1.6
10. lo0.sw.b1.vh.hbone.hu                                0.0% 197.2 196.2 193.8 
198.1   1.7
11. cirkusz.lvs.iif.hu                                   0.0% 186.3 194.7 186.3 
201.8   4.9

Best round trip is almost the same as the IPv4 path (186.3ms), but the average 
is 194.7 and the slowest is 201.8ms.  Much harder to get an accurate time if 
each packet can take that much different time.


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