Hi all,

Would it be possible to add an extension to the user's address, e.g.
user+s...@example.com, that would be mapped through a separate transport
(e.g. the slow: as suggested in the man page), and be rewritten by
trivial-rewrite to u...@example.com before being sent out.

An option like this would do the job for me. It would allow me to easily
maintain my maillist, rewriting addresses on the fly when creating the
mails, and allowing regular mails to be handled with priority.

And any ideas on how/where such a slow: transport (with a limited number
of smtp daemons to be started) would be configured? I can't find
anything about this in the man pages. Except that it is possible.

Wouter.

On Tue, 2009-03-03 at 11:25 +0800, Wouter van Marle wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-03-02 at 11:18 -0500, Victor Duchovni wrote:
> > On Mon, Mar 02, 2009 at 11:59:31PM +0800, Wouter van Marle wrote:
> > 
> > >> Use a custom transport for these messages with a low concurrency limit,
> > >
> > > You mean like installing sendmail or so in parallel to postfix and then 
> > > have sendmail send out the lower-priority mails?
> > 
> > No I mean a Postfix "transport", as in transport(5) and master(5).
> 
> The problem of a transport map (I have just read the man page, which as
> usual is highly technical so I am not sure whether I fully understand
> the purpose and working of transport maps) is that there is a huge
> overlap between receivers of the low-priority mail list and regular
> e-mail receivers. Most of the regular e-mail receivers also receive this
> mail list.
> 
> Many of my mail list receivers are on common domains like gmail.com and
> yahoo.com, thus this would slow down all other mails to those domains as
> well, even if they are not part of the mail list.
> 
> Setting it per recipient is not a good idea because of maintenance
> issues (keeping mail list and transport map in sync), and because of the
> regular mails that may be sent to those recipients while a mail list run
> is in progress.
> 
> The idea of using a "slow:" transport as suggested in the transport(5)
> man page (without elaborating unfortunately...) to limit the number of
> smtp deamons that sounds like the way to go to me. Then I can reserve 80
> deamons for the mail list, or maybe 50, enough to saturate my uplink -
> still allowing regular mails to have an smtp available to be handled
> immediately. This appears to me a way to let the other mails "jump the
> queue" and be processed with priority. That there is little bandwidth
> available is not too much of an issue, then it might take a minute
> instead of seconds to send out, still a major improvement of the hours
> it may take in the current situation.
> 
> > >> or use traffic shaping in the TCP stack to limit the bandwidth per
> > >> SMTP connection.
> > >
> > > And how would that get certain mails out with priority? It sounds to me 
> > > like this would slow down the overall process. I have up to 100 smtp 
> > > processes running at a time, but as long as new mails end up at the back 
> > > of 
> > > the queue still no progress there. They have to come first.
> > 
> > It would not, but you won't saturate the entire link with any given email,
> > leaving enough room for other traffic. If you can limit the concurrency
> > of this particular message, then you'll have some bandwidth left over for
> > other messages.
> 
> I don't like that idea very much: when I have only a few mails to send
> out, I want them to go with the maximum speed possible. I have 2 Mbit
> available, so with 100 smtp connections could limit it to say 20 kbit
> per smtp process. But that would leave the rest of my bandwidth idle
> when there are less than 100 active smtp connections, which is the case
> like 90% of the time.
> 
> Wouter.
> 
> 
> > 
> 
> 

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