--- In [email protected], Carroll Robbins <carrollrobb...@...> wrote: > > On Mon, 11 May 2009 22:18:46 -0000, "quantiworks" <quanticwo...@...> > wrote: > > > You are a power user right? > > I am a retired developer.
That's a yes to my question plus a very knowledge user. > > Are we talking among people that doesn't know the difference? > > Apparently. Apparently not in this post. But by your standards the correct term should have been: "when I log on and the desktop gets loaded". Is this better to you? For fairness lets wait until the OP says what he meant. > > Do I really need to be specific? > > Yes. In this case, no I don't. It's just you complicating. When you install PowerPro you get a dialog with the following: "Start PowerPro when windows starts (...)" By your logic, Bruce should have changed the string to something like: "Start PowerPro when you log on and the desktop gets loaded" > > Don't you think yildi knows the difference? > > Apparently not. Again, lets wait until he says what he meant. > > Windows startup could refer to before, during, or after phases, and in this > > case we're referring to phase 6, the Logon. > > No. Logging in is not part of startup. Yes it is. .Control sets are updated. .Group Policy settings take effect. .Startup programs run. > Windows must be fully running before > you can login. Login is optional. Either you login or not you are in the Logon Phase. > Some systems normally have no user logged > in, all the work is done by services and programs with no desktop > interaction. Again, Logon Phase Services subsystem is loaded at this stage. > After Windows has started you can login and out as many times > as you want. They are separate operations. This is an important > distinction. No they aren't, before login and after login are again Logon Phase > > I explicitly said "after the desktop gets loaded" > > The desktop can't be loaded until after login and a user is established. Really?! Who would have thought of that... Obviously, if the desktop is loaded is because a user logged in. > > So, I don't know why you needed to make that statement. > > I'm trying to fight ignorance and help users understand Windows better. > -- That's a good thing for sure. Knowledge doesn't serve us nothing if it isn't shared. However with this boot, startup, login nonsense is just you being complicated w/o need. PowerPro users know that it will only run "when the user logs in and the desktop gets loaded".. There is no need to be specific when asking "I want to run it at startup as I did before but the UAC prompt annoys me" Everyone understands that, but you don't. The one that likes to fight "ignorance" needs a specific and pointless explanation. Plus, in this case you are not helping understand Windows better since you continue to confuse terms and stages. As far as I'm concerned you've helped me before with PowerPro and I'm grateful for the kind will to help. Also sorry if my words sound too harsh but I can't agree with you on this.
