--- "Michael S. Macdonald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jan wrote:
> 
> > battery is OK and is
> >installed the correct way (I've checked each time).
> >
> >Voltage of battery in circuit, computer plugged in:
> >3.53 volts.
> 
> >Plugged back in & restarted. Same problem. (Also,
> if I
> >have another drive other than ID 0 selected, it
> >defaults to 0 to start up.)
> 
> >Earlier, after plugging it back in, I tried zapping
> >the pram on a cold start, expecting to get the
> monitor
> >reset, etc, but it didn't. It zapped, the computer
> >started to go through the process of booting but
> >stopped near the very beginning. (I don't know at
> what
> >screen, if any, because the video never came on.) I
> >restarted it and everything worked ok (even the
> date
> >was ok.) Also, the monitor settings are ok and the
> >computer even comes up with the fact that i'm
> located
> >in Honolulu.
> >
> >Zapping the pram after not unplugging it loses the
> >video & the machine sounds like it stops booting.
> >Restarting restores computer.
> >
> >Note: In between all this, I reset the CUDA (30
> sec)
> >and although the date reset, the video came up ok.
> 
> I'm not sure I follow all of the above, but here's
> another possibility.
> You have upgraded your ram, and one of the side
> effects is longer boot up
> from cold start as the machine does a memory check.
> If one of the dimms
> exhibits a flaw the boot process is interrupted ie
> hangs.
> You can disable this memory check by holding down
> the command option keys
> when you open the memory control panel, and turn off
> the memory check via
> the control panel that appears (OS 8.5 or later)
> 
> If the symptons disappear, than the culprit may be
> with ram rather than the
> pram.
> 
> Cheers...Michael
> from sunny Vancouver Canada...
> 
> 
> 
> 
LOL I sure understand why it's hard to follow!! I'll
try to explain things more precisely in the future.

Q: if the ram is stopping the computer from booting
after the computer is unplugged for a few minutes, why
would it boot normally otherwise?

Q: how do I check each individual ram chip to see
which one(s) may be the problem? (this ram has been in
the computer for years)

Aloha
Jan


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