>Shell Olson / 2006/03/24 / 07:16 AM wrote: > >>There are some people from whom I receive seemingly random characters >>(I'm sure they aren't, but whatever they are seems irrelevant). Maybe >>Hiro can help me? Or does this problem occur with other languages, too? >>Certainly one source is users of hotmail.com but it is not limited to them. > >While I never experienced this problem with PM, I have suffered the same >problem on various Windows emailers such as Outlook and Lotus Notes long >years ago. However, the issue isn't encoding. When you say random >characters, I assume you can see correct sentence partially and it >starts to corrupt in a middle of the sentence, right?
No, actually. The entire message is "gomi", except if there are any English characters. (or perhaps non-Japanese characters, but I am only using the two languages) >This is due to "Gomi" byte got within the multiple byte sequence, might >be caused by (a) the sender's mailer such as one running on Windows >English with Japanese Locale (Windows require so called Far East Package >in order to have the true Japanese OS dlls, and it ain't cheap), or (b) >sender's server gateway that drops the control byte. > >Here is an interesting side notes. Berklee has huge percentage of Asian >students. They use their own email interface for students. When you >receive Japanese email, and setting encode correctly, you can view most >of the sentences but not all. However, when you hit Reply, all will be >displayed correctly in the quote section. I have no idea why it is this way. Yes! I have had this experience. Usually I wrote to the person with a new message, but once I hit Reply to tell them I couldn't read it, and it was suddenly just fine. But this is not the problem I am having in general. >Back to the topic, when I had this problem on Windows, I had to ask the >sender to resend in HTML format (yeah, so much of anti-HTML!). This may not work for me since the people I'm usually communicating with know less about computers than I do, but I will ask them. >I actually don't know how much PM is contributing to this problem since >I have not seen it with PM, but now I am very curious if you could >receive the same message with Mail.app to compare. I have to pay for that, right? I actually don't use any mail except PM and some awful free group mail program that we use for the PCs at work. It doesn't handle Japanese well at all, but occasionally the Reply trick works with it. More often the whole Japanese message jumps into the subject line and one can't open it at all. I think they're going to change programs soon... When I check my mail from work, from a PC, just going to my mail server, it is the same problem, so it certainly isn't a problem created by PM. I had just always hoped PM could fix it, since it "spoke" Japanese. But I'll hope changing to shift-jis works, although I suspect I may have tried that a couple of years ago... Thanks, Shell >-- > >- Hiro > >[PROTECTED] ><[PROTECTED]> <[PROTECTED]>
