I've also had occasional "drag" problems, but not enough to be able to discern any pattern. I don't have "Default Folder" (although I'm not criticizing anyone who does :)
I'm keeping a look out to see if there's something in common. Regards.....Peter On Sun, Mar 23, 2008, Bill Schjelderup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Tim, > >I own a software development company, all our products run on both Mac >and Windows so I'm all too familiar with weird program interactions. >With thousands of customers all over the world, there is a constant >stream of weird things we need to deal with. > >I recently moved from a quad G5 machine, to an 8 core Mac Pro where I >carefully, painfully, reinstalled everything as my "old" machine had a >lot of old junk on it. That said, I DO run a LOT of software. I've been >using Powermail since version 2, and Default Folder since version 1. For >the most part, BOTH products have been very reliable. > >I known CTMDEV recently moved from Codewarrior to xCode while at the >same time Apple has been trying to stabilize OS 10.5. I carry Powermail >on an external firewire drive between my home office and "work" office. >I have exactly the same issues although my work machine is a fairly >clean Intel Macbook. I don't think my issue is machine related. > >As I examine my crash logs, I see 11 Powermail crashes in the past 11 >days on just my home machine. Sometimes I go 2 days between crashes. I >receive over 1200 emails per day, so it's not like I'm not using >Powermail EVERY day. > >In fact, Powermail is my most used application. It's not worth my time >to debug the problem myself... If I discovered it WAS Default >Folder...I'd not change; Default Folder is VERY useful. > >As I mentioned before, it always seems to happen during a drag event; I >can't say for sure, but I think it's a threading issue when I'm dragging >and email arrives. At one point I thought it was the notification sound, >so I turned that off. (Quicktime has caused issues in the past.) That >wasn't the issue. Activity monitor shows over 100 processes running yet >overall my machine is very stable. > >I'm wondering if this is a widespread Powermail issue, and if so, >perhaps CTMDEV will spend a bit of time on solving it. > >If not, well, then I'll just keep moving forward hoping that some >combination of updates will resolve MY issue. > >One thing I'm not considering AT ALL is moving from Powermail! I want >CTMDEV to be very successful, and continue PM development.... > >+-------------------------------------------+ > Bill Schjelderup -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] >+-------------------------------------------+ >>On Sunday, March 23, 2008, T.L. Miller sent forth: >> >>>On 3/23/08, at 9:44 AM, Bill Schjelderup [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: >>> >>>>I too have been having a LOT more "quits" with Powermail since 10.5. I >>>>too use DefaultFolder, but I'd say 99% of these failures occur during >>>>drag events, i.e. when I'm dragging a message to a folder. >>> >> >>Have you tried removing "Default Folder" and retesting? >> >>I have followed all these reports over the years with interest, not only >>because software like PowerMail, i.e. apps that perform what is now a >>well understood function like e-mail, "should just work" as the mantra >>goes. I am interested also because I've rarely had a problem with the >>package and that is with around 7 years of use. I have used and >>continue to use my Mac in a fairly vanilla configuration when it comes >>to apps that tweak how the finder or operating system in general >>behaves. I think the clue lies there. >> >>I work in the IT field and one option that suggests itself quite a bit - >>at least with Windows systems - is that of starting over and layering on >>the software cleanly and testing after each addition. Apps such as >>DefaultFolder should be checked quite thoroughly in such testing given >>what they do. I have a case right now between IBM's "Via Voice" and a >>host of apps on a client's eMac. I can't prove it outright until I >>remove the app and if necessary go through the above procedure. >>Certainly the logs suggest that it is at least partly to blame. >> >>Once you've managed to isolate the guilty apps, I would think that you >>have a choice to make, at least until the companies in question can get >>their act together. What do you need to do your job / live your life / >>whatever? Neither CTMDEV nor Apple is responsible for anything other >>than their own stuff, beyond certain obvious assumptions of stability in >>the recommended vanilla environment. >> >>Just my 2 cents. >> >> >>-- >>Tim Lapin >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Intel iMac OS 10.4.11 PowerMail 5.6.1 1 GB RAM 250 GB HD >> >> > > > >
