powermail-discuss Digest #2825 - Saturday, January 16, 2010
Time for an update!
by "George Henne" <g...@nsbasic.com>
Re: Time for an update!
by "Michael J. Hußmann" <mich...@michael-hussmann.de>
Re(2): Time for an update!
by "George Henne" <g...@nsbasic.com>
Re: Time for an update!
by "Michael J. Hußmann" <mich...@michael-hussmann.de>
Re: Time for an update!
by "A-NO-NE Music" <anonemu...@mac.com>
Re(2): Time for an update!
by "George Henne" <g...@nsbasic.com>
Re: Time for an update!
by "Michael J. Hußmann" <mich...@michael-hussmann.de>
Re: Time for an update!
by "Michael J. Hußmann" <mich...@michael-hussmann.de>
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Subject: Time for an update!
From: "George Henne" <g...@nsbasic.com>
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 11:31:59 -0500
I've been a Powermail fan for years, but I'm getting impatient for some
improvements. These are basic things that other mail clients (like
Apple's Mail) do just fine.
1. .ics files can't update Calendar.
2. Links inside html emails do not open in many cases.
3. Emails with inline pictures do not display the pictures inline - they
only appear as attachments.
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Subject: Re: Time for an update!
From: "Michael J. Hußmann" <mich...@michael-hussmann.de>
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 13:03:52 +0100
George Henne (g...@nsbasic.com) wrote:
> 1. .ics files can't update Calendar.
Works for me; double clicking an .ics attachment opens iCal which offers
to add it to some calendar.
> 2. Links inside html emails do not open in many cases.
Yep. Works a little better than before, but still not completely reliably.
> 3. Emails with inline pictures do not display the pictures inline - they
> only appear as attachments.
Is there an actual email format with inline images, I mean distinct from
HTML? I thought that inline images in non-HTML mail were just regular
attachments that some mail clients preferred to display inline.
Personally I prefer images to be listed separately from the mail text
itself (and not opened unless I choose to), but maybe there could be an
option.
- Michael
Michael J. Hußmann
E-mail: mich...@michael-hussmann.de
WWW (personal): http://michael-hussmann.de
WWW (professional): http://digicam-experts.de
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Subject: Re(2): Time for an update!
From: "George Henne" <g...@nsbasic.com>
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 09:09:31 -0500
More inline...
>George Henne (g...@nsbasic.com) wrote:
>
>> 1. .ics files can't update Calendar.
>
>Works for me; double clicking an .ics attachment opens iCal which offers
>to add it to some calendar.
For me, the attachments end up as part of the body of the text version
of the message - Powermail does not detect the attachment. The mail
program on the iPhone recognizes the attachment properly.
>> 2. Links inside html emails do not open in many cases.
>
>Yep. Works a little better than before, but still not completely reliably.
>
>> 3. Emails with inline pictures do not display the pictures inline - they
>> only appear as attachments.
>
>Is there an actual email format with inline images, I mean distinct from
>HTML? I thought that inline images in non-HTML mail were just regular
>attachments that some mail clients preferred to display inline.
>Personally I prefer images to be listed separately from the mail text
>itself (and not opened unless I choose to), but maybe there could be an
>option.
Once again, Mail on the iPhone displays the message as the author
intended. If you would prefer to see it another way, then it should be a
preference, not the default action.
We really haven't seen much new from CTM in a while. Is development
still continuing?
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Subject: Re: Time for an update!
From: "Michael J. Hußmann" <mich...@michael-hussmann.de>
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 15:35:06 +0100
George Henne (g...@nsbasic.com) wrote:
> For me, the attachments end up as part of the body of the text version
> of the message - Powermail does not detect the attachment. The mail
> program on the iPhone recognizes the attachment properly.
I've just tried sending from iCal 4.0.1 to PM 6.0.3 and the .ics file
was recognized as an attachment alright.
> Once again, Mail on the iPhone displays the message as the author
> intended. If you would prefer to see it another way, then it should be a
> preference, not the default action.
I was wondering about the "as the author intended" part - is there
actually a standard way to specify that images should be displayed
inline, other than using HTML? Because technically those inline images
are still attachments.
- Michael
Michael J. Hußmann
E-mail: mich...@michael-hussmann.de
WWW (personal): http://michael-hussmann.de
WWW (professional): http://digicam-experts.de
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Subject: Re: Time for an update!
From: "A-NO-NE Music" <anonemu...@mac.com>
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 10:45:23 -0500
On 2010/01/16, at 9:35, Michael J. Hußmann wrote:
> I was wondering about the "as the author intended" part - is there
> actually a standard way to specify that images should be displayed
> inline, other than using HTML? Because technically those inline images
> are still attachments.
What standard now is Apple Mail.
I am still involved with quite a few beta programs for audio software. Testers
posts bug reports with inline images. They are all placed inline from Apple
Mail. Sender doesn't care to (or need to) rename each attachments. PM won't
show them inline. You don't know which attachment image is supposed to line up
with which description. Frustrating. Most of the beta programs forced me to
switch to Apple Mail. In the beginning, I separated accounts so I receive beta
group mails to Apple Mail, and regular mails to PM. Soon, it was just too much
so I just switch everything to Apple Mail.
I am still subscribing to this list, hoping PM will do inline image someday.
--
- Hiro
Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Greater Boston
http://a-no-ne.com http://anonemusic.com
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=pearflame&search_type=&aq=f
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Subject: Re(2): Time for an update!
From: "George Henne" <g...@nsbasic.com>
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 11:12:56 -0500
>George Henne (g...@nsbasic.com) wrote:
>
>> For me, the attachments end up as part of the body of the text version
>> of the message - Powermail does not detect the attachment. The mail
>> program on the iPhone recognizes the attachment properly.
>
>I've just tried sending from iCal 4.0.1 to PM 6.0.3 and the .ics file
>was recognized as an attachment alright.
The ones I am getting are coming from Outlook. It's tempting to blame
that, but Mail handles these messages properly.
>> Once again, Mail on the iPhone displays the message as the author
>> intended. If you would prefer to see it another way, then it should be a
>> preference, not the default action.
>
>I was wondering about the "as the author intended" part - is there
>actually a standard way to specify that images should be displayed
>inline, other than using HTML? Because technically those inline images
>are still attachments.
The messages are in html, with embedded images. Once again, something
PowerMail should handle gracefully.
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Subject: Re: Time for an update!
From: "Michael J. Hußmann" <mich...@michael-hussmann.de>
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 17:20:19 +0100
A-NO-NE Music (anonemu...@mac.com) wrote:
> What standard now is Apple Mail.
Apple Mail has a hidden preference ("DisableInlineAttachmentViewing";
you can set it using the shell) governing whether attachments are
displayed inline. Contrary to what George supposed, Apple Mail doesn't
care about the author's intentions.
Anyway, if Apple Mail was the yardstick against all other mail clients
were to be measured, why would anyone be using something else? I for one
am glad there are alternatives to Apple Mail. PM could surely be
improved, but making it more like Apple Mail is not what I would call an
improvement.
- Michael
Michael J. Hußmann
E-mail: mich...@michael-hussmann.de
WWW (personal): http://michael-hussmann.de
WWW (professional): http://digicam-experts.de
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Subject: Re: Time for an update!
From: "Michael J. Hußmann" <mich...@michael-hussmann.de>
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 17:24:14 +0100
George Henne (g...@nsbasic.com) wrote:
> The messages are in html, with embedded images. Once again, something
> PowerMail should handle gracefully.
But PM already does display images inline if they are embedded within
HTML messages (if you have set its preferences that way). What it
doesn't do is to display images inline if they are attachments of non-
HTML messages (whereas Apple Mail generally does).
- Michael
Michael J. Hußmann
E-mail: mich...@michael-hussmann.de
WWW (personal): http://michael-hussmann.de
WWW (professional): http://digicam-experts.de
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