On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 10:56:03AM -0700, Jan Setje-Eilers wrote:
> 
> > What is the availability and price of the Pegasos in Europe?
> 
>  From: https://www.pegasosppc.com/store.php 
> 
>   euro 650 ($800).
> 
>  So the mac mini is in fact cheaper (faster chip, no dvd burner - not 
> that a dvd burner is all that interesting for bringup).
> 
> > Wouldn't it be more feasible to use a Mac mini?
> 
>  Not that the Mac mini isn't nifty, but I'm wondering to what extent
> that is investing in a platform that's on its way out.
> 
>  For purely selfish reasons I'd like to see support for the system on
> chip ppc systems that are in use as system controllers, but the eval
> systems for them seem to be quite a bit more expensive (there's little
> to no volume in them, so they may even be loss leaders at their high
> price). So starting with something like the Pegasos or a Mac does make
> sense.
> 
>  If I had a budget for this (I don't), I'd pick up both systems and
> start with whichever reset more quickly. 
> 
>  Another compelling feature to look for is debugging support from OBP.
> IIRC, the Apple systems are pretty basic in that regard.

And they don't have serial console, and more to the point apple probably
couldn't care less about opensolaris, while genesi will probably be more open
to your need in case.

Also, provided you are going to be wanting to invest in such stuff, the
pegasos cpu module has a full cop connector, where only the pins are needed to
be added, which would allow you to use a JTAG hardware debugger to help in
early bringup or something.

Also, the mac mini harddisk sucks performance-wise :)

Friendly,

Sven Luther


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