ambil contoh aja di US dan indonesia, disana umat muslim ga ada yg dilarang utk beribadah atau diojok ojok, diintimidasi karena minoritas...orang2 keturunan arab pun disana punya komunitas sendiri yg gak diganggu gugat oleh pemerintah maupun rakyatnya.. kalo sebaliknya di indonesia, yg kristen selalu dicari2 aja kesalahannya...pake alasan fatwa MUI lah, pemurtadan lah, SKB menteri lah...pokoknya dibikin ga nyaman dan di-diskreditkan sebagai kaum minority. itulah contoh negara yg belum menghargai kebebasan. malah yg ironis di cina, mengaku ekonomi bertumbuh pesat, negara maju tapi masih juga mengekang kebebasan beragama bahkan gak cuma yg kristen, tapi yg muslim juga kena getahnya di intimidasi oleh pemerintah. di myanmar juga terjadi hal yg sama... dari segi liberalisme berpikir, US boleh dicontoh...meskipun dari indonesia timbul banyak penolakan karena dianggap mengkhianati islam di JIL. yang boleh dicontoh juga adalah belanda, disana kriminalitas sedikit, pengangguran rendah, populasi terjaga, bahkan sex and drugs-free....dan tidak membuat negara itu kacau balau seperti indonesia yg selalu mau membersihkan diri dengan kemunafikan.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- In [email protected], Carla Annamarie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > simple aja deh..klo gak ada liberalism..: > > 1. there will be no equality of right among ppl > Kebebasan adalah dasar > HAM, makanya klo gak da HAM maka yang ada malah perbudakan. > 2. there will be no rule of law or supremacy of law > tanpa kebebasan maka > yang timbul dalam pemerintahan adalah otokrasi, bukannya hukum membatasi > kekuasaan penguasa tetapi penguasa adalah hukum. > 3. there no freedom in speech n express an ideas. > 4. there no economy freedom > gak bisa jadi orang kaya...:))..semuanya di > kontrol negara... > 5. klo gak da liberalism, gak akan akan ada kebebasan berpikir..makanya > neg2 yang anti sama liberalism gak ada yang maju...bisa kasih contohnya > satu neg yang super maju karena anti liberalism...just in case gw > salah...:)) > > > > > > > "RM Danardono > HADINOTO" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] To > oo.de> [email protected] > Sent by: cc > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ups.com Subject > [ppiindia] Amrik dan Islib-->Re: > IAIN Dikuasasi JIL? - > 12/06/2005 04:01 > PM > > > Please respond to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ups.com > > > > > > > > > the mainstream liberal current is not present in the country > concerned. The French liberals are close to the libertarians, but > most other European liberal parties do not share their main values. > Although these parties may adopt part of the libertarian agenda, many > European liberals see libertarianism as a distinct, opposing > political philosophy. Those who emphasize the distinction between > classical liberalism and libertarianism point out that even Adam > Smith believed a free market could not satisfy all the demands of a > society. > > Furthermore, some (Haworth, 1994, pp. 27) argue that libertarianism > and liberalism are fundamentally incompatible because the checks and > balances provided by liberal institutions conflict with the support > by most libertarians of complete economic deregulation. It may be > argued, however, that some sorts of libertarians called minarchists > (at least, those allowing for taxation and/or similar means to > support a government) are not necessarily in favor of complete > economic deregulation in the first place. (See main article: > Libertarianism). > > The other form of liberal fundamentalism is sometimes referred to as > neo-Jacobin, and sometimes as "Enlightenment fundamentalism" [5]. It > arises as a reaction to radical theocracy (such as "Islamism") and > its perceived apologists (so-called "multiculturalism"). > Enlightenment fundamentalism fits in a tradition of resistance and > suspicion towards organized religion which can be found in much of > Enlightenment thinking. An outspoken proponent of this tradition is > the Dutch Liberal parliamentarian Ayaan Hirsi Ali. > > The reference to neo-Jacobinism is problematic, since most present- > day liberals wouldn't feel friendly to Jacobinism because of its > illiberal terror regime. Indeed, it is arguable whether or not the > Enlightenment Fundamentalist's attacks on multiculturalism are > themselves anti-liberal, given the place of rational tolerance within > the liberal tradition (i.e., Locke's "Letter Concerning Toleration"). > > [edit] > Liberal conservatism > see main article Liberal conservatism. > Liberal conservatism is a hybrid of economic liberalism and > conservative social philosophy. This strain often emerged in > countries with strong socialist and/or labour parties, and is often > strongly influenced by the writings of Edmund Burke. Examples include > the Reform Party of Canada, Canadian Alliance, Fine Gael (Republic of > Ireland), Party of the Liberal Front (Brazil), Moderate Party > (Sweden), the Liberal Democratic Party (Japan), and the Liberal Party > of Australia. > > [edit] > Neoliberalism > See main article Neoliberalism. > Neoliberalism is an economic ideology rather than a broader political > ideology. The swing away from government action in the 1970s led to > the introduction of this term, which refers to a program of reducing > trade barriers and internal market restrictions as a way towards a > more free market capitalist system. It does accept a certain degree > of government involvement in the economy, particularly the acceptance > of the need for a central bank and a capable national defense, but it > seeks to reduce government regulation (and particularly taxes) as > much as possible. While neoliberalism is sometimes described as > overlapping with Thatcherism, economists as diverse as Joseph > Stiglitz and Milton Friedman have been described by others > as "neoliberal". This economic agenda is not necessarily combined > with a liberal agenda in politics: neoliberals often do not subscribe > to individual liberty on ethical issues or in sexual mores. An > extreme example was the Pinochet regime in Chile, but some will also > classify Ronald Reagan, Margaret Thatcher, Tony Blair or Gerhard > Schröder as being neo-liberal. > > It should be noted that, in the 1990s, many social democratic parties > adopted neoliberal economic policies such as extensive privatization > and open markets, much to the dismay of many of their own voters. > This has led these parties to become de facto neoliberal, and has > often resulted in a drastic loss of popular support. For example, > critics to the left of the German Social Democratic Party and the > British Labour Party accuse them of pursuing neoliberal policies. > > Some conservatives see themselves as the true inheritors of classical > liberalism. Jonah Goldberg of National Review argues that "most > conservatives are closer to classical liberals than a lot of Reason > (magazine)-libertarians" because conservatives want to preserve some > institutions that they see as needed for liberty.[6] Further > confusing the classification of liberalism and conservatism is that > some conservatives claim liberal values as their own. > > > See also > > Anarcho-capitalism > Libertarianism > Market liberalism > Freiwirtschaft > Modern liberalism > Neoliberalism > Methodological Individualist > Ordoliberalism > Small-l liberal > Left-wing politics > Social liberalism > Anders Chydenius > Liberal Christianity > Classic liberalism > Classical liberalism > [edit] > > Further reading on liberalism > > The literature by thinkers contributing to liberal theory is listed > at the Contributions to liberal theory. > in English > The future of liberal revolution / Bruce Ackerman - New Haven: Yale > University Press, 1992 > Left and Right: The Prospects of Liberty / Murray N. Rothbard, 1965 > Liberalism and Democracy / Norberto Bobbio - London: Verso, 1990 > (Liberalismo e democrazia, 1988) > Liberalism / John A. Hall - London: Paladin, 1988 > The Decline of Liberalism as an Ideology / John H. Hallowell - > London: Kegan Paul, Trench, Trubner, 1946 > Liberalism / Ludwig von Mises, 1927 > in Dutch > Beleid voor een vrije samenleving / J.W. de Beus en Percy B. Lehning > (red.) - Meppel: Boom, 1990 > Afscheid van de Verlichting: Liberalen in verwarring over eigen > gedachtengoed / Hans Charmant en Percy Lehning - Amsterdam: Donner, > 1989 > Liberalisme, een speurtocht naar de filosofische grondslagen / A.A.M. > Kinneging e.a. - Den Haag: Teldersstichting, 1988 > De liberale speurtocht voortgezet / K. Groenveld, H.J. Lutke > Schipholt & J.H.C. van Zanen - Den Haag: Teldersstichting, 1989 > Het menselijk liberalisme / Dirk Verhofstadt - Antwerpen: Houtekiet, > 2002 > > in French > Le libéralisme / Georges Burdeu - Paris: Seuil, 1979 > in German > Die Freiheit die wir meinen / Werner Becker - München: Piper, 1982 > Noch eine chance für die Liberalen / Karl-Hermann Flach - Frankfurt: > Fischer, 1971 > Liberalismus / Lothar Gall - Königstein: Athenäum, 1985 > [edit] > > > Some references > Michael Scott Christofferson "An Antitotalitarian History of the > French Revolution: François Furet's Penser la Révolution française in > the Intellectual Politics of the Late 1970s" (in French Historical > Studies, Fall 1999) > Piero Gobetti La Rivoluzione liberale. Saggio sulla lotta politica in > Italia, Bologna, Rocca San Casciano, 1924 > [edit] > > External links > > Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy: Liberalism, by Gerald F. Gaus > On John Dewey's Liberalism and Social Action > Peter Berkowitz on "Modern Liberalism" > French Liberalism in the 18th and 19th century > What's the Matter With Liberalism, political theorist Ronald Beiner's > classic critique > The program of liberalism, Ludwig von Mises > The Oxford Manifesto of 1947 > Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism"; > > ---------- > > > Naaahhhh, gimana? > > > > > > > > > > > ********************************************************************** ***** > Berdikusi dg Santun & Elegan, dg Semangat Persahabatan. Menuju Indonesia yg > Lebih Baik, in Commonality & Shared Destiny. > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ppiindia > ********************************************************************** ***** > __________________________________________________ ________________________ > Mohon Perhatian: > > 1. Harap tdk. memposting/reply yg menyinggung SARA (kecuali sbg otokritik) > 2. 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