thats what its called "double-standard politic".., not only US but EU
countries have their shared in guilt.
but as a matter of fact, even saudis corporations have connection with jewish
bankers, they put and invest most of their money into western countries.
ironically they rarely invested their money for economy development to south
asian country esp indonesia (where by fact they re growing number of wahhabist
here).
saudis's sheikh lives larger than life, they have castles, mansions, all over
the world, they have the finest wine collections, have all the luxurius cars (
ferrari, porsche, lamborghini..etc), in my opinion they re living a kaffur
kinda life. the life that so contrast with the teaching of wahhabism and also
the Quran n hadith.
and also US n EU and all the rest of the world, maintain their delusional
hypocrisy, and try to ignore the fact that some (not all) saudis wealthy re
chief financer of terrorist groups.
money, power, politics, oil, and finally religion's ideology.
osama bin laden was an outcast son of the wealthy and saudis respectful
family, but he denounced all the luxury that money could offered and lives as
fugitive and hero in the eyes of wahhabist ppl.
one of the essence of wahhabism is to denounced all related to kaffur, it
means includes the kaffur's way of life ( no modern fashionable clothes, no
branded shoes its means no manolo..:) the kaffur's modern tech ( no cell phone,
no computer, no refrigerator, no AC, no cars, no airplane, no radio, no TV, no
internet, no bus, no taxi, no ipod, no LCD), women's cant have a higher
education, no mcdonald, no kfc, no malls, no breadtalk, no starbucks, no sushi,
no credit card, btw no high tech hospitals (so if they got terrible sick just
dont go to US, singapore or Europe countries's hospitals.. just go to arabs's
hospital for cure, no need for advance medicine bcs all major medicine's
institutions for curing all terminal deseases re from n in kaffurs' countries,
gosh it's so many....u figure out ur self then..:)
my point is osama's life is an example for all wahhabist who realy hates
western n all kaffurs.., i mean he really lives abide with his faith. i means
he got a credit for that for standing up for what he believe.
but for those wahhabist who claimed that the non-muslim (the hindhu, budhist,
atheist, christian, jewish, shinto, tao, or many other beliefs) is kaffurs bcs
we have the wrong way of life and beliefs. and want to destroy our
civilization. want to convert our life ( as an atheist, shinto, judaism,
christian, hindhu, budha, and other beliefs) to their religion. bcs they think
their religion re the only truth and the others re false and need to be
conquered and destroyed?
pls dont be double standard n hypocrite. lives like osama's lives.., isn't he
their hero?, quit job, go to afgan, or sudan, and lives in the desert.
years ago, i thought it's only a political war (bcs of palestine (n arabs)
war with israel, but as years passed i began to realize that there's not the
most important reason. the main reason is bcs it's their ideology, it's their
belief's system. i read articles and comments of some intellectual muslim
scholars n their quite respectible but they have the same agree with this
ideology.
so i got the conclusion then, i think wahhabism is the real islam, it's the
pure islam. many of muslim scholar's apologist try to counter this perception
abt wahhabism is the real islam. but how can they counter the Quran n hadith.
how can they contradict Quran n hadith bcs by facts wahhabism practicing the
pure Quran n hadith.
the universal values is not in one's religion, but in equality, humanity and
freedom.
in my personal opinion, the best religion dont exist. it's delusional. the
true religion/belief i dont have a clue what it is, even an atheist claimed
what they believe is the truth. anyway, u dont have to agree with me though,
everyone has their own opinion n beliefs. it's their right. their personal
faith re their basic right . who am i to claim that hindhuism re the true
religion, or atheist re the best belief system? so why bother?
but now humanity has new enemy it's called- ideology of hatred. hitler had
tried once to genocide one race n to conquered europe, but he was defeated. and
died in shame. so this "ism" will also ended sooner or later.
peace
Nugroho Dewanto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
jangan lupa dalam setiap aksi teror jihadis di seluruh dunia
dibaliknya ada ideologi saudi dan pelatihan serta senjata
amerika.
begitu mesra amerika memperlakukan sekutu arabnya yang
paling loyal itu, kendati mereka tak menerapkan demokrasi
dan memperlakukan wanita dengan sangat buruk.
why? i believe there is no such thing as a coinsidence.
At 12:06 AM 11/14/2007 -0800, you wrote:
>An Exegesis of Wahhabism
>by : Syed Kamran Mirza
>
>
>What is Wahabism (?): many conniving Islamists want to blame Wahabism for
>the inherent intolerance of real Islam. That is, they want to portray
>Wahabism as the separate or deviant entity of Islam which is being
>misunderstood (by westerners) as the real Islam. Most western non-Muslims
>are also being misguided by the so called Wahabite type of Islam, which
>according to some is not real/true peaceful Islam. Now what is actually
>Wahabism?
>
>Fact of the matter is, the so-called Wahabism is not a separate religion,
>nor is it a ~ separate brand of Islam. Truly, this Wahabism is the new
>force to unite Islam into its pristine form that existed in the early
>Islamic period of 7th century. That is the time of Prophet Muhammad and
>his four favorite disciplesKhula-faye-Rashedin. In the early 18th century
>Mohammad Ibn Abdul Wahab a famous Saudi religious extremist leader called
>for a renewal of Islamic spirit, moral cleansing and the stripping away of
>all innovations to Islam since the 7th century. His followers are called
>Wahabis or wahbite Islamists, and these followers of Abdul Wahab preach
>pure and real original Islam which got the name (erroneously) as Wahabism.
>
>
>Therefore, Wahabism is not a new brand of Islam or any offshoot of Islam;
>rather Wahabism is the re-orientation of the original pure Islam. That is
>Wahabism is the old pure wine in a new bottle. Wahabism does not have any
>separate scriptural book, Quran and Sunnah (hadiths) are the principle
>guidance for Wahabism. Actually, Wahabism is nothing but the real Islam of
>7th century in a sheer rejuvenation by the grace of Arabs petrodollars.
>Most importantly, Wahabism (pure islam) is dangerously intolerant towards
>other religions and infidels as it was during early period of Islam
>(Starting from Prophet Muhammad up to the end period of four rightly
>guided caliphs).
>
>Followers of Wahabism prefer to identify themselves as Muwahiddunwhich
>means the unifiers. Wahabism is simply the political Islam that has been
>adopted for power sharing purposes. It has no special practices, nor
>special rites, and no special interpretation of the religion Islam that
>differs from the main body of Sunni Islam. Wahabite followers consider
>every Muslims should follow the practice of Islam like Wahabite Muslims
>and regard all those who do not follow them as the heathens and enemies of
>Islam. Osama bin Laden is the true follower of Wahabism.
>
>The followers of Wahabism including the Saudi Arabias ruling house of
>Saud insist they are simply practicing the true Islam of Prophet
>Muhammad. Saudi ruler (King of Saudi Arabia) did not change anything in
>the theological aspect of original Islam. But they have changed their own
>political designation as the rulers of Saudi Arabia. They are not calling
>them king (as Islam does not advocate Kingship); rather Saudi rulers call
>them The custodian of Islam.
>
>Wahabism got popularity to the west and the Muslim world during the
>aftermath of Iranian Revolution in 1979. Billions of Dollars were spent by
>Saudi to influence Wahabism ideology as the counter force to Iranian
>Shiite ideology throughout the whole Muslim world by building thousands of
>Mosques, Madrassahs, Islamic centers etc. Pakistan was flooded with Wahabi
>madrassas (Islamic school or factory of terrorism) which was the main
>focus to the American media after the 9/11 episode as the breeding ground
>of Taliban and al-Qaeda Jhadi force.
>
>Sheik Shishu a Kurdish Imam who is the follower of wahabism (when asked by
>a Kurdish reporter about wahabism) said: What is Wahabism? there is no
>such thing called Wahabism, only true Islam. Saudi students and Saudi
>citizen also have the similar opinions about Wahabism.
>
> From the book Shattering the Myth: Islam beyond ViolencePrinceton
> University Press, 2000). Like many other Saudis in America, Mr. Alahmari
> does not like to refer to the brand of Islam that is exported from his
> country as Wahhabism. "We dont feel Wahhabism is something different,"
> he said. "It is a purification of Islam. "
>
>Effects and reflections of Wahabism on the lives of Muslims:
>
>If we recapitulate how Islam as a religion had been practiced during the
>decades of 60s, 50s and 40s and beyond, we can surely detect tremendous
>changes the way Muslims practice Islam today. During 60s, 50s and 40s and
>even before that (for many centuries)Muslims used to practice religion
>Islam very privately, easily and peacefully. There was no political
>influence in Islam and especially in the Indian sub-continent as well as
>entire South East Asia Islam was tremendously influenced by Sufism and
>other local brand of cultural admixes. We did not see young people and
>college students so serious about religion. Religious activities (mainly
>five times prayers and fasting during Romadhan and two Eids) were duty of
>mainly the elders.
>
>Youngsters were not so serious about religion. During Pakistani era,
>political leaders were not spell bound to show up their religious zeal to
>appease the voters/publics. Muslim women like Hindu women used to put
>their portion of their Saree over their heads (called Ghumta, a century
>old Indian costume) but never ever we could see burkha-clad or hijab-clad
>women among the city duelers. In very rare cases, burkha-clad rural
>aristocrat old women were visible in the country sides.
>
>What do we see for the last several decades?
>
>For the last 30/40 years period, this so called Wahabism (real Islam) has
>rapidly invaded the lives of Muslims throughout the whole world.
>Especially, Muslim majority countries in the south-east Asia were silently
>invaded right before our eyes by this so called wahabite pure islam. Not
>to be mistaken thatit came by the name of wahabism, actually it came as
>the purification of Islam which was considered polluted by many centuries
>of neglect by the guardians of Islam Saudi Arabia. Thanks to two generals
>(Zia and Ershad) of Bangladesh for vigorously importing Wahbite Islam in
>lieu of Arab petro-dollars.
>
>However we have seen following radical changes in the Muslim majority
>country like Bangladesh by the courtesy of Arab petro-dollars:
>
>1.
>Massive numbers (mushrooming) of Mosques and Madrasshas, Islamic
>Universities thorough out the country producing millions of religiously
>educated (Talibans) students who are mainly unproductive young generation
>for the nation.
>
>2. Mushrooming of religious based political parties. Several dozens of
>politically motivated Islamic jihadi parties creating extreme fanaticisms
>amongst the young generation and spreading Islamic venom. These Islamic
>political parties are fighting tooth and nails to establish Sharia-based
>Islamic paradise to take the country back into the 7th century darkness.
>
>3. Some visible cultural changes like: replaced century old habit of
>saying: Khuda hafej by the Saudi style: Allah hafej, declaring (by
>some religious parties) womens visits of Shaid-Minar, Gaye Holud festival
>(use of turmeric baths in marriage ceremony) etc. as un-Islamic.
>
>4. Religious activities (Five times prayers and fasting during Romadhan)
>have increased thousand folds amongst the young generation. Restaurants
>remain shutting during Ramadhan month even for non-Muslims. Use of Arab
>garbs amongst the religious mullahs has increased ten folds. Even common
>publics (men and women) changed their dress to become more Islamized
>(Mucholman) i.e. men wear loose dress (Kurta-Shallower), grow beards and
>women wearing Shalower-Qumiz instead of Bengali Saree and ridiculous
>looking hijab to show their devotion towards Islam.
>
>5. Islamic fatwabazi in the country side has taken roots (which was
>unknown even in Pakistani era) like epidemics. Stoning deaths, Islamic
>lashings and other sharia-based punishments have rampant in Bangladesh.
>
>6. Politicians showing up extreme zeal of religiosity and their main
>slogans of politics become who can save Islam more potently.
>Iftar-culture has started vigorously amongst the all political parties and
>pilgrimage to Mecca (Haj) and visiting other religiously holy places
>become the rule for politicians. Tremendous competition between the rival
>politicians to show up who is the best Muslim. All these above
>unproductive and hypocritical manifestations of politicians were totally
>unknown even in Pakistani era.
>
>7. Islamization of Arm Forces (which was non-existent in Pakistani time).
>During British India or even in Pakistani timeArm forces were totally
>secular/progressive minded people. But soon after the assassination of the
>father of the Bangali Nation in 1975, Bangladesh Arm-forces were readily
>exposed to Islamic fanaticism and very quickly converted the whole Army
>into a fanatically India hated Islamized Arm-forces of Bangladesh.
>Thousands of regular Joans (soldiers) are ex-madrassah students and
>bearded soldiers. Jamaat Guru war-criminal Gulam Azam visits Dhaka
>cantonment to provide Islamic sermons to the ordinary soldiers.
>
>8. An utopia of Pir-business has bloomed in Bangladesh (although, wahabite
>guardians of Islam do not like it) by the golden opportunity developed due
>to the extreme zeal of religiosity among the common publics.
>
>9. Creation of Religious Ministry (Dharmo Montry) , Islamic Foundations
>(dozens of them), haj ministry, haj department, haji camps, Tablig Jamat
>(Biswa-iztema) are a few cardinal signs of wahabite influence in
>Bangladesh. These were unknown even in Pakistani era or during the British
>India.
>
>10. Islamization of education system as a whole taken roots by this
>Wahabite influence. Some over jealous Mullaic intellectuals of Bangladesh
>discovered lots of modern budoo science in holy Koran to fool ordinary
>peoples.
>
>11. Among the general publics pilgrimage to Mecca (haj and Umrha-culture)
>and visiting Islamic holy places have increased 100 folds. Pilgrimage to
>Mecca was rare thing even in Pakistani time.
>
>12. Loud speaker (Microphone) culture was begun with competition. One can
>experience the horrendously disturbing ear-busting sounds of Ajan (call
>for prayers), Friday sermons and Gozzals coming from the various Mosques
>from all directions. These were totally unknown during periods 30/40 years back
>.
>
>13. In general a dangerous movement (utopia) of making Sharia-based
>Islamic paradise has been generated in every Muslim majority countries
>throughout the whole world because of Wahabite influence.
>
>14. After invading successfully al most all the Muslim majority countries,
>this so called Wahabism also occupied 80-90% of the Mosques established in
>the infidel lands around the world.
>
>Similar or even more jihadi brand of Islamization changes can be observed
>in Pakistan, Indonesia, Malaysia and other Muslim majority countries
>around the world.
>
>Conclusion:
>
>Undoubtedly, rejuvenation of real 7th century Islam has taken its ugly
>roots among all Muslim countries including Bangladesh and century old
>Sufi-mixed peaceful benign Islam has evaporated from Bangladesh and
>elsewhere in South East Asia. So it is not correct to claim that Muslims
>in Bangladesh and other Muslim majority countries of the world have no
>idea what Wahabism is until after September 11th. September 11th episode
>was only the visible cardinal sign exhibited by the soldiers of Allah
>inspired by pure (wahabi) Islam. The malignant signs of this so called
>Wahabism (pure Islam) was also taken its roots among the Muslim
>expatriates around the world which is clearly visible by the courtesy of
>intense religiosity (Ummabazi, various Islamic organization, hijab culture
>among the Muslim women who never used hjab/burkha in their own land before
>coming to this western infidel lands. All of these above changes among the
>Muslims in general are the direct effects/influence of
>the propagation of 7th century pure Islam under the false banner of so
>called Wahabism.
>
>It is most unfortunate that, at the modern era of 20th and 21st centuries
>when entire world was shedding out the century-old religious fervors, and
>very rapidly embracing secularism, modern science and technologyMuslims
>on the contrary was embracing more and more fanatical religious fervors of
>so called Wahabism and going back to the dark days of medieval 7th century
>life style. Only Allah knows when Muslims will learn to go forward instead
>of going backward!
>
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