Dear all,

Peter-san, Alexey-san, thank you for your quick response.

If you have any comments for open issues in mappings-06, I would like to hear 
about it. 
These comments will be reflected on the updated mappings document as -07 before 
cut off date(2/14), 
as it  will influence the framework document.

There are two points that have not reached a consensus in the mappings document 
.

(1) Define local case mapping as an alternative to case mapping in the PRECIS 
framework
        pros:  German eszett, Turkish dotless i, etc. will not be mapped 
contrary to the users' expectation.
        cons: It is necessary to modify the framework document.

        options:
                (A) Support the change of -06
                (B) Don't support the change of -06, and restore the algorithm 
of -05


(2) Way to deal with the context dependent mapping for both Greek sigma and 
final sigma.
  (a) Define extra mapping table for sigma and final sigma inside mappings 
document
        pros: Sigma and final sigma will not be mapped contrary to users' 
expectation.
        cons: It will be necessary to update this document to follow unicode's 
updated version.

  (b) Leave it to unicode's definition
        pros: It is not necessary to define extra mapping table for sigma and 
final sigma.
        cons: Unless unicode is updated and a new definition to map both sigma 
and final sigma has been added,
              final sigma will be mapped to sigma. 

        options:
                (A) Support the above (a)
                (B) Support the above (b)

I would appreciate your comment.

Regards,

Nemo

On 2014/02/05, at 19:41, Alexey Melnikov <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 05/02/2014 00:03, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
>> On 2/4/14, 3:01 PM, Alexey Melnikov wrote:
>>> Hi Peter,
>>> 
>>> On 24/01/2014 13:57, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
>>>> On 01/24/2014 06:02 AM, Takahiro Nemoto wrote:
>>>  [...]
>>>>> We changed the definition of local case mapping and
>>>> That is better, thanks. If I understand your text correctly, we might
>>>> want to say very clearly that a PRECIS profile needs to either use
>>>> case mapping or use local case mapping, but that it can't use both
>>>> (i.e., local case mapping is an alternative to case mapping, not
>>>> something additional on top of case mapping, since the local case
>>>> mapping rule will apply normal case mapping if there is no
>>>> locale-specific mapping).
>>> If that is the way we want to go, then this contradicts section 5 of
>>> draft-ietf-precis-framework:
>>> 
>>>    2.  Optionally, additional mappings such as those as specified in
>>>        [I-D.ietf-precis-mappings]:
>>>        1.  Delimiter mapping
>>>        2.  Special mapping
>>>        3.  Local case mapping
>>>    3.  Non-local case mapping
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I.e. draft-ietf-precis-framework needs to be updated to make this clear
>>> as well.
>> 
>> Agreed. I think that the definition of "local case mapping" has changed in 
>> the latest version of the mappings document, such that (if we think the new 
>> direction is appropriate) we'd need to do this:
>> 
>> OLD
>>  2.  Optionally, additional mappings such as those as specified in
>>       [I-D.ietf-precis-mappings]:
>>       1.  Delimiter mapping
>>       2.  Special mapping
>>       3.  Local case mapping
>>   3.  Non-local case mapping
>> 
>> NEW
>>  2.  Optionally, additional mappings such as those as specified in
>>       [I-D.ietf-precis-mappings]:
>>       1.  Delimiter mapping
>>       2.  Special mapping
>>   3.  Either "local case mapping" from [I-D.ietf-precis-mappings] or
>>       case mapping as described under Section 4.1.3 of this document
>> 
>> Does that look right?
> Yes, this looks good. I think [I-D.ietf-precis-mappings] is definitely 
> normative now with your new text (it wasn't before).
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