Dear Bob This is exactly what I am finding with my dealings with book printers. Improvements in paper coatings, inks, platemaking and a host of other factors have pushed the workable CMYK gamut range quite a bit since the Euroscale and other gamuts were extablished. (To be clear this does apply to magazine printing but for obvious reasons getting hundreds of pages of ads to match is a much bigger problem and even achieving a lower common denominator is difficult).
However what I am finding is that many printers would rather keep the true optimum press profile close to their chests. There is a very good reason for this, they can keep clients happy by doing very good matches to proofs even if the proofs are not near the centre of the CMYK profile. One advantage for photographers working in a closed environment like book printing is that any proof printer which can achieve quality to the desired standard is as good as expensive bureau proofs. The savings on printing proofs for just one book can buy an Epson or HP proof printer and leave change. Regards Bob Croxford In a message dated 12/20/02 9:46:01 AM, bob photo writes: Which brings us back to the proof/press/proof conundrum. Some would argue (including pre press and press houses ) that many industry wide accepted proofing colour spaces/devices are flawed in that they don't match the true capabilities of the press. But the bottom line is , that as long as the major part of our industry believes that the press has to match the existing proofing methods , then we have to find an acceptable method of providing files within tthat framework . And one of the main reasons they accept the existing standards is that even if they may be (slightly?) flawed , at least they are consistent in their output (which also enables remote proofing). And of course that they represent (albeit sometimes a lower common denominator target) a standard to which all parties can agree......a contract proof. >> =============================================================== GO TO http://www.prodig.org for ~ GUIDELINES ~ un/SUBSCRIBING ~ ITEMS for SALE
