Dear Michael

Forgive me if someone has already responded to this - I'm on the digest
version.

on 25/05/04 9:51 pm, Michael Harvey  wrote:
 
> After much research I have now confirmed that it is impossible to get a rich
> black using an Epson 2100 and Epson Matte Heavyweight paper.
> 
> I am using the Matt Black (pk) ink and cannot achieve results even remotely
> close to that of an Epson 1160. I know that the Epson 2100 uses Ultrachrome
> ink and the Epson 1160 dye ink but nonetheless, I'd expect it to be close.

 Although there will be some difference between the Ultrachome and dye based
black it sounds like something is further adrift than it should be.
 
> Both printers have been profiled this week.

Did you Greyscale test your printer to find the optimum print driver setting
for use with that particular set up of printer/ink/paper before profiling
it?
How were the printers profiled?
What monitor are you using and how have you calibrated it?
What light are you using to view prints by?
I apologise if these seem basic questions, but recent posts on the list have
shown that not everyone is aware of how important these issues are.
Whilst calibrating a monitor with Adobe Gamma and using a generic or
seemingly inexpensive profile may be adequate for some, for those working to
a more critical standard its just not good enough. You need a good monitor
that is hardware calibrated, a viewing light with a colour temperature
balanced to match the screen output, and an accurately profiled printer.
Time and money spent on getting it right at the outset should be seen as a
good investment, because it saves plenty of both in the long run.

To avoid my repeating what has been posted here in the last few days, check
the Prodig archives for the recent thread 'Profiles'. Steve Upton, Neil
Barstow and Shangara Singh, amongst others, contributed to the subject of
printer profiling, and what it costs.

You might also like to take a look at Neil Barstow's website
www.colourmanagement.net to help you with good colour management practice.
You will find details there of his Greyscale Testing Kit, which can help you
identify printer settings which will give you the deepest black whilst
maintaining a good tonal range throughout BEFORE you get to printing
profiling charts. It will result in a more accurate profile, [as will having
Neil - with his wealth of knowledge and experience - making your profile].

> In fact I'd go further and say that it is not possible to get a screen to
> print match, using 'any' profiled monitor and a profiled Epson 2100 on Epson
> Matte Heavyweight. Some images are close but some are irreconsilable.

Get things correctly profiled and you should be pleasantly surprised!

All the Best

Julia



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