Julia Claxton wrote:

> Although there will be some difference between the Ultrachome and dye based
> black it sounds like something is further adrift than it should be.

Or is it just the way the Ultrachrome inks work?

> Did you Greyscale test your printer to find the optimum print driver setting
> for use with that particular set up of printer/ink/paper before profiling
> it?

Yup. Did my step wedge and tried all the settings.

> How were the printers profiled?

Testchart TC9.18 and Gretag spectrolino / spectroscan Profilemaker 4.1

> What monitor are you using and how have you calibrated it?

Lacie Blue 22", profiled with Gretag Eye One Monitor + basicColour.
BasicColour produced a much warmer and lower 'high-light' profile which was
very disappointing.


> What light are you using to view prints by?

Just Normlicht 5000K viewing booth.

> I apologise if these seem basic questions, but recent posts on the list have
> shown that not everyone is aware of how important these issues are.
> Whilst calibrating a monitor with Adobe Gamma and using a generic or
> seemingly inexpensive profile may be adequate for some, for those working to
> a more critical standard its just not good enough. You need a good monitor
> that is hardware calibrated, a viewing light with a colour temperature
> balanced to match the screen output, and an accurately profiled printer.
> Time and money spent on getting it right at the outset should be seen as a
> good investment, because it saves plenty of both in the long run.

Agree entirely!

> 
> To avoid my repeating what has been posted here in the last few days, check
> the Prodig archives for the recent thread 'Profiles'. Steve Upton, Neil
> Barstow and Shangara Singh, amongst others, contributed to the subject of
> printer profiling, and what it costs.

I know...

> 
> You might also like to take a look at Neil Barstow's website
> www.colourmanagement.net to help you with good colour management practice.
> You will find details there of his Greyscale Testing Kit, which can help you
> identify printer settings which will give you the deepest black whilst
> maintaining a good tonal range throughout BEFORE you get to printing
> profiling charts. It will result in a more accurate profile, [as will having
> Neil - with his wealth of knowledge and experience - making your profile].

Ho-hum

> Get things correctly profiled and you should be pleasantly surprised!

So any other ideas, now that you know everything is correctly profiled?

I still maintain that it is impossible to achieve a true 'dye-like' black
with Ultrachrome inks on Epson Matt Heavyweight! Anyone else?

Michael

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