> It is down to listers to define what they are discussing. The subject > you Bob, have just defined is fundamental - so discuss it. Which list > mum is stopping you? If you want listers to define things - ask them. > > Sorry Jorge (this week's list mum) - I'm sure you will want to answer > yourself . This was my personal opinion - not the duty list mum's!!
No problem Francis, since I was writing my own response right now, both as a listee and as a list mum anyway. Dear Bob I see no way of telling apart neither the content nor the level of discussion in any list by the info provided by any listee in any post at all and it is not a List mum or moderator's concern what is being discussed as long as the guidelines are being respected.BTW, Please keep in mind that a revision of the Guidelines for ProDig is almost ready. I pretty much follow your point and you may remember I was advocating for digital imaging in the StockPhoto list way before you yourself embarked into it and as of today I practically stopped posting there, since the discussions about Stock are almost nothing compared to the loop of basic digital Q&A's which could eventually be answered in the many websites with basic info available for all, and use the forum to discuss Stock. It became obvious it made no sense to respond to people who eventually had not used a digital camera in their life, but have a fantastic voice to shout out loud that digital does not work and film is better... Ironically, the lack of interest in other colleagues in their learning proces will eventually lead to more business to yourself. All the clients, who have even hated Digital before working with me, are now addicted to it and more than that, they don't feel like "testing" new digital photographers, which means repeated business for myself, time and again. And I still consider myself a student in digital matters! It may seem like a harsh response, but ProDig has always been announced as a PROFESSIONAL PHOTOGRAPHERS FORUM, which does not lock the doors to newcomers and less experienced colleagues, but we much certainly hope they will look after their own basic learning curve, just in their own interest and to actually obtain more benefit from this forum.. This discussion could -again- bring to the table the ideas about filtering the subscribers etc,etc. with all the pros and cons related to this, and before we enter into this never ending discussion, all I can suggest , in case you still feel in the mood to respond to some basic questions, just point to websites with the info (dpreview, Robgalbraith and Luminous Landscape should be enough for a month's search and scrutiny) and forget about asking and providing more details. If people still don't show enough interest in perfecting their own skills using availabe web resources and you spot a question wich is all too basic or full of undetermined parameters as to provide a useful answer, just stay away from responding to that thread or address the person privately. Your choice. How far down the learning curve are we willing to go in the threads, is then just a matter of personal choice. Neither the list nor the list mums have any direct connection with this. Also, as most basic questions are recurrent, just pointing to our great Archives should do a lot of things easier. Regards Jorge Parra ProDig Listee On Duty ProDig List Mum PS: your comment about Problems with Digital files is definitely something BIG which require the attention of all. The quest for standards is still far from reaching formal agreements, but there are lots of people working on it. Our subscriber Denis Dunbar is managing the Digital Standards Commitee of APA in the US, He may provide some update on his more recent findings and proposals if asked. However, the reasons why they are not massively( or even regionally) implemented is just another huge area of discussion. JP =============================================================== GO TO http://www.prodig.org for ~ GUIDELINES ~ un/SUBSCRIBING ~ ITEMS for SALE
