Previously Martin Aspeli wrote:
> Hi Rok,
> 
> >> I'd like to ditch the Archetypes dependency, at least in membrane
> >> itself. It makes membrane a less attractive option for many high-volume
> >> sites, and makes some things very complicated that need not be.
> >>
> >> I'd also like to do some more performance work. The membrane catalog,
> >> for instance, has a lot of indexes that could probably be rationalised
> >> away, and some of the search-based operations could be made simpler by
> >> using a direct user id -> user object btree, for example.
> >>
> >> I suspect that plone.relations would be a good way to achieve both of
> >> these things.
> >>
> > 
> > i dont know how far florian is with paula (this years gsoc project),
> > but was ment to be replacement for membrane/remember. you should
> > definetly speak with him about this.
> 
> The last I heard, Paula was an effort to bring PAU (the Zope 3 
> equivalent to PAS) to Zope 2. Florian's GSoC project did indeed set out 
> to make an AT-free membrane, but from what I can tell, that didn't 
> actually happen.
> 
> Using PAU in Zope 2 is definitely interesting from an R&D perspective, 
> but the debate at the time suggested that it's a rather large pill to 
> swallow, and would introduce some new problems even as it solved some 
> existing ones.

In particular PAU is a small subset of (Polone)PAS, which does not
support many things we do, while having in my opinion somewhat
unfortunate abstractions in other places from what I remember. I only
see disadvantages for us. Not everything from Zope 3 is better than what
Zope 2 has!

I think it would be much more interesting to see if we can leverage
repoze.who in Zope 2. I kind of expect that that is very doable,
and it would make us compatible with a much larger python community.

Wichert.

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Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>    It is simple to make things.
http://www.wiggy.net/                   It is hard to make things simple.

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