> >> I've got a small restaurant *which* has four
> >> interests, in order of priority:
> 
> I did a restaurant a couple of years ago. The realities are:
> 
> 1. For all of the reasons Matt pointed out (and more), direct them to

> buy an off-the-shelf POS system. The better POS systems already have  
> the accounting/inventory/etc, built in. Some even have a loyalty club

> option included with interface to a web site.


Dumb question: what's a 'loyalty club'?  Would you have a name or link
to a POS vendor that has this option? 


> Some also had the wireless PDA or tablet thing worked out. They work
*far* better than  
> anything any one of us could develop as a one-off application.
> 
> 2. Training is a *huge* issue. Servers are a combination of young,  
> usually pretty smart kids (usually college students), older ones for  
> whom it is "just a job." The former "get" computers, the latter  
> don't. All wait staff and cooks come and go like bums at the bus  
> station. Ditto managers. As soon as one crew is trained, 50% of them  
> are gone. The owners mostly are "artistes" who want to cook. They  
> can't or won't manage the _business_. It has to be dead-simple-easy  
> or nobody will use it. The POS systems are all touch screens. The  
> restaurant is laid out on the screen, they "touch" their tables to  
> get going.


Interestingly enough, the Intuit POS hardware package has no touch
screen component. The IBM package does, though. Be nice to know of other
major vendors in this category.


 
> 3. Restaurants are retail. Any system work or updates have to 
> be done after hours or early in the morning. I can't tell you how many
2 am  
> sessions I had. The guy doing their hardware stuff had it worse.


I'm just in this for the initial consulting part. That's why I want to
install products that include sound and ongoing vendor support. This is
where IBM has always shined, but at a cost.

 
> 4. They can't afford you. The good POS systems are expensive, but no  
> single restaurant can afford to have a custom system built. The  
> margins are just not there. A chain run by actual business people,  
> yes. They can spread the cost. A single restaurant will not 
> survive it.
> 
> I got involved when a guy I knew bought the restaurant. I 
> recommended  to him what I am recommending to you: Upgrade to a good
POS system.  
> The owner chose to keep their old, sucky Access-based POS system. I  
> built a loyalty system which integrated with the POS system 
> and their Web site, and had a few other capabilities the POS system
didn't. It  
> was very kludgy, but it works. I got paid only because the owner had  
> very deep pockets, but I wish he had followed my original  
> recommendation.
 

Thanks for the valuable testimony. Nothing like hearing from folks who
have been there.

I'll post about any significant developments.


Bill

 
> Ken



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