This reminds me of the old saying about IBM's coders; They believe that if it takes 9 months for one woman to make a baby it would only take a month if they use 9 women. In this case they take engineers who don't know shit about the real world 16 weeks of intensive coding training. Big whoop.

I remember once working with a brilliant kid who had a Masters Degree in Computer Science from MIT and didn't know what a punched card was until we showed him.

I believe there's more to programming than just coding or "software engineering". There certainly is when I do what I do. (or was, I'm retired)...

I also supplied decades of knowledge about many different businesses and business processes. I have in depth knowledge of how real people do their work. I know how people interact with computers, people of all skill levels not just "experts". I can suggest ideas to make a computer solution more useful in the REAL world than any wet-behind-the-ears coder/engineer can.

I can tailor user interfaces to help people do their work rather than hinder them (as most "software engineers" seem to do. I've had to deal with some of the most GOD-AWFUL UI's in my time -- including windoze, done by "brilliant" engineers....

I chuckle when I hear drivel like "16 weeks" to a good programmer. They probably know more about "software engineering and coding" than I do but are they as valuable a resource?

I doubt it.
Chet



Andy Davies wrote:

Chet G said "Change "Programmer" to "Coder" and it's probably accurate..."

I don't think so - read some of the comments on the link:
these people are the best engineering graduates from top Indian Univerities
- add 16 weeks of 6x12 programming bootcamp and you'll get someone who's a
lot more expert than this old hack (40 years experience - well OK 5 years
experience 8 times <s>).

Andrew Davies  MBCS CITP
 - AndyD        8-)#





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