On 2/4/13 12:15 PM, Ken Kixmoeller (ProFox) wrote: > On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 5:00 PM, Paul McNett <p...@ulmcnett.com> wrote: > >> > Eclipse or Visual >> > Studio extremely difficult to use, and my productivity would tank. >> > > Gee, I found Eclipse to be incredibly daunting, too. Too much so for me to > bother with. I thought it was just another example of the deterioration of > the stuff between my ears, since "everybody" (not here) seemed to rave > about it. > > Nice to know that you (obviously with no such deterioration) found it that > way, too.
I suspect there are probably some nice things I'm missing by not using an IDE, but I haven't tried an IDE yet that didn't annoy me in some way. Like you, I think this is some deficiency in me, not in the IDE, since so many people find so much success with them. To be productive, I must have a streamlined workflow and not get derailed by anything but my code. My toolchain works for me: + git or subversion + linux + python + vim with Python syntax coloring + xterm, many opened at once for editing and testing + all the useful *nix utilities like grep and sed + dabo + a laptop computer with no external devices so I can work anywhere. + LibreOffice for opening the xlsx and docx files people send me. + Windows via a virtual machine for testing and deploying to 99% of my users. Those last two items are 99% of what annoys me about my setup. The main thing that I've stuck to doing, even though it takes more time upfront, is hand-coding my GUI instead of using any kind of visual designer. This has gotten easier and still doesn't seem very tedious, as long as I divide and group similar things together in their own panels and then put the panels together on the form later - if I tried designing a whole complex form by hand I'd probably go out of my mind. The one visual design tool that I use, I made myself: Dabo's Report Designer. It isn't polished like I wish it were, but it does work for 100% of my use cases so far (when it doesn't, I fix it). Even then, for already-designed reports, there's a 50/50 chance I'll just open it in vim and edit the xml directly, since that is more straightforward and I can usually get the edits done in the time it takes the report to open in the designer. Your mileage will vary. Paul _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/51102aa1.6020...@ulmcnett.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
