I've been studying the electronics in cars for about 5 years now because it is the only way I see out of this nightmare.
Many times a fix to a car these days is a software upgrade. Should be simple right? For me to upgrade the eprom on your computer in your car, I need: 1. A fixed power supply in case your battery dies while being updated (700.00) 2. A pass thru device (1,900.00) 3. a software subscription to the OEM (as low as 55.00 for a 3 day subscription of 2,500 per year per OEM) Anybody has any questions about car electronics, I bet I can point you in the right direction as I've done a lot of research on it -----Original Message----- From: ProFox [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kurt Wendt Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 9:24 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [NF] The Tech Industry's Darkest Secret: It's All About Age Yeah - but, Ken - many times SW upgrades can be Free - and they were Done to fix a certain problem - as well as adding new capabilities. Where as - a Car "FIX" is NEVER Free - and is VERY Costly most times! -----Original Message----- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ken Dibble Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 10:13 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [NF] The Tech Industry's Darkest Secret: It's All About Age >Not sure it is funny or not. >I've been told that the automotive manufacturers must support their products >for 20 years which means keeping spare parts available. > >To me, that sounds like they are taking care of their customers. >Whereas the software industry seems to want to force new products on >their customers rather than maintain their existing products. Virgil is right. It's not a matter of technical feasibility, it's a matter of (missing) business ethics and necessary regulation to enforce them. In many US states, an auto mechanic can go to jail for telling a customer they need a repair that they don't in fact need. When was the last time any software manufacturer or vendor got jailed for telling a customer they "need" a software "upgrade" that they don't in fact need? If we applied the same laws to software as we do to cars in this area, we would quickly find that the software manufacturers would have no more trouble complying with them than the auto mechanics do. Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org [excessive quoting removed by server] _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: [email protected] Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[email protected] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
