On Apr 7, 2007, at 7:04 PM, Bill Arnold wrote:
> The stubborn empiricist cannot cope with Jung, who requires the
> student
> to cross some mental bridges, without which the journey cannot happen.
> The whole idea of the unconscious is, by definition, that which we're
> not conscious of (because if we were, then it would be conscious), so
> the very first step into his thinking requires accepting that
> something
> can exist that we can't touch/see/weigh/measure.
Ah, the old trick of the supernaturalist: accept the premise, and
then the conclusions are self-proving. You can do that with anything,
and prove anything. If you accept the Bible as inerrant fact, then
yes, you can prove that the Earth is 6,000 years old.
> But does he prove the existence of this unconscious, then? Yes,
> absolutely, beyond a doubt.
As long as the proof requires that "leap of faith" you mention
above, it is no proof.
> In fact, the most unfortunate side of this
> is that there are people who use this knowledge to manipulate others,
> such as our "friends" in Hollywood, Madison Ave and Washington.
There is no requirement to accept the notion of "psychic energy" in
order to explain manipulating the masses.
-- Ed Leafe
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