I think there is also a moral obligation not to abandon Iraq. A failed state in the heart of the middle east will be a breeding ground for terrorists to launch attacks around the world.
You commented earlier on the defeatist note of congressional hearings on the surge and I think you illustrate clearly in those remarks that the war in Iraq will be defeated in Washington not Baghdad. The surge is enjoying some success. The wide-spread ethnic cleansing in and around Baghdad has been stopped and in some small way reversed. This is in no small way due to the effective deployment of the Kurdish pesh mergas as part of the new Iraq national army. The Arabs actually like them and welcome their presence. "They are much more polite than the Americans". Yes their are still too many kidnappings and bombings. And yes there is still huge amounts of work to do in rebuilding an effective government able to deliver the services, security and infrastructure that Iraq so badly needs. And it will have to be "Iraq" as the Saudis, Turkey and Iran will accept nothing less; although they may go for an all-out war in the absence of the US military. Disengagement and flight by the US would be cowardly and immoral. Look at what happened in Somalia. Graham. > > >On Jun 22, 2007, at 11:33 PM, Graham Dobson wrote: > >> Nonsense. The families of the three Canadian soldiers killed in >> Afghanistan >> this weekend know different. Counter-insurgency (in Iraq or >> anywhere else) >> is still war-fare. And David Patreaus wrote the book on it for the US >> military. > > Sorry, but you cannot mangle the language to suit your >needs. War is >between countries; we are occupying a nation we defeated in a war. >The people there are using violence to get rid of our occupying >forces. This is what happens to all occupying forces. > >-- Ed Leafe >-- http://leafe.com >-- http://dabodev.com > > > > [excessive quoting removed by server] _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: [email protected] Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
