>These unfocused, righteous arguments without any basis in fact (I'm 
>trying Larry, give me a fact I can work with), well, it's the same 
>righteous indignation used for arguing the earth is flat, intelligent 
>design, race separation, domino theory of communism, WMD's in Iraq or if 
>you want very current events, how about Robert Murray and the Utah 
>mining disaster?
>
>Come on Larry, give me something...
>
>Bill

You missed the whole point.  I don't have to prove anything.  I am not trying 
to get people to change their lives to fit my cockamamy theory.

If you don't know who Ward Churchill is, you either do not live in the US or 
have been living under a rock... sorry.

What you are asking of me is exactly what many of us have been asking of the 
'global warming' true believers... and they only have projections based on some 
kind of computer model, plus a myriad of excuses why things don't line up with 
their thinking.  

Beyond that, for a true orthodox 'globla warming' believer, nothing I say will 
make any difference, and as far as giving you something, if you want truth... 
as Fox Muldaur thought... it's out there.  Find it yourself and you may believe 
it.  If you can't see the constant carping about the US from the academic 
community about the US and almost any of its policies combined with the almost 
universal alignment with the Democratic party there is nothing I can do to 
bring you into the real world.

Larry Miller

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