At 02:26 PM 3/11/2008 +0000, Alan Bourke wrote: >Charlie Coleman wrote: > > And in any event, I don't remember the exact wording that started this > > spin-off of the thread, but I believe you said something like MS never > made > > any forced an update on you. So are you agreeing that statement is > incorrect? > > > > >I don't know of any MS updates that happened under the radar apart from >the one I mentioned. People would notice, like they noticed that one.
Just to be clear, people did NOT notice the forced auto-update. One of the "MS watch-dog" groups did. That may be splitting hairs. But my point is MS simply cannot be trusted. > > So, it sounds like your > > experiences and mine are vastly different. > >I don't deal with many customers who have that number of workstations >for sure. But again - these types of problems are in no way confined to >Microsoft. Unfortunately, I haven't yet dealt with clients with big installations with Linux. Of the few small ones, including myself, there has never been a significant problem (more than a few minutes of scratching the head about an Icon or something like that). Of course, when applications on Linux get upgraded the features change, etc. But no updates in the Linux OS affected applications, and vice versa. MS updates commonly (in my experience) have those type problems - well, probably not as much application-to-OS updates any more - but there was 1 application that did mess up something in an MS function. But come to think of it, one of the patches to Office messed up something on the network at the school. To be fair, I have not done as many total number of updates under Linux as I have under MS. Anyway, all the MS problems I've had in the past is why most of the systems I roll out try to be "monolithic" - don't use MS components, don't use MS programs, minimize the requests to "OS" functions, build as many of the needed functions into the software (or find code libraries to link in, etc). This has ended up being a fantastic approach. Over the past 10 years, these applications have weathered the MS OS changes with nary a glitch. Vista is trying to throw a monkey wrench into the works though, but, so far, it looks like that won't be much of a problem either. -Charlie _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: [email protected] Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.

