I consider myself to a little intelligent but HUH?
Jim

Bob Calco wrote:
>>>> This is getting silly..whatever happened to the noble art of
>>>> cropping ?
>>>>         
>>     
>>>     Oh, that would take *effort* and require consideration of what
>>>       
>> they
>>     
>>> were sending out.
>>>       
>> Wow, Ed, that was a cheap shot.  I guess when you can't deal with
>> arguments intellectually, you have to take whatever shots you can.
>> Although I too appreciate concise postings.
>>     
>
> When Ed can't deal with somebody -- either because their modes of expression
> are consistently contrary to his own, or (as in my case) because they refuse
> to discuss issues strictly within his predefined discursive boundaries and
> logical premises, all carefully crafted to make his "logical" conclusion the
> inexorable conclusion -- then he ignores them. 
>
> In other words, he can't stand discussing any issue when he doesn't get to
> frame the debate and define every relevant term, and even the very criteria
> of what is relevant to the debate. Translated: He won't engage in a
> discussion with anybody who won't let him set himself up for rhetorical
> success.
>
> Note, he seems to reserve this sad label of 'twit' for folks of some flavor
> of conservative disposition---at least I cannot think of any of the libs or
> atheists on the list who are also in his twit filter, though I could think
> of a few who clearly qualify--at least if one agrees with my inclusion in
> Ed's twit list. But I could be wrong about that, and hope I am.
>
> Instead, he reacts indirectly when other people of ostensibly "lower"
> standards (i.e., those who have the tolerance and courage for real debate)
> engage folks on his beloved 'twit' filter, and always with a snide
> "us-vs.-them" generalization like the one above.
>
> On a positive note, he runs this list pretty openly, not to mention at his
> own expense, so I guess we must forgive his being a petty jerk from time to
> time. I used to get indignant about it, even offended, but it has become
> over the years part of the overall charm of OT for me. The paradox of such a
> closed-minded, self-righteous, intolerant person* hosting such a
> free-wheeling forum for philosophical debate within, supposedly, a technical
> mail list (rather than its own separate list as most people would suppose it
> should be) is intriguing, and I generally like nearly everybody who
> participates here. 
>
> Most of us here, including Ed, are nothing if not entirely consistent and
> predictable, and it's comforting on some primordial level to note such
> constants in the universe, yea, even when we are occasionally not in our top
> form. Actually that's when things are most interesting.
>
> - Bob
>
> * - At least in his OT persona, I view him as such--I admit I never met him
> personally, and suspect he's a fine guy with whom to knock back a few adult
> libations once you get to know him. But such people generally don't
> blacklist others like Ed does, so it's an open question for me.
>
>   
>> --
>> Larry Miller
>>
>>     
>
>
>   



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