Socialized medicine actually DOES work as the majority of countries in the western world wil tell you. Your Canadian anecdote forgets the fact that the 8month delay is for FREE govt care. She can get a private appointment quickly just as you can however, you wont get a free consult ever.
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: Friday, 21 November 2008 6:53 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it? Socialized medicine doesn't work. We have a friend in Canada who is suffering from depression. The authorities have decided it's not an emergency and has scheduled her a psychiatric appointment for 8 months from now. In the United States, it may take a few weeks to get an appointment, or less with a cancellation. Clearly socialized medicine is not the answer. She should drive a few hours to the NY border and get an appointment there. In the United States everyone over 65 gets Medicare and Social Security. My mother lives quite nicely on that. ************************************************* Barack Obama is not My President http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Fri, 11/21/08, Geoff Flight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Geoff Flight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it? To: "'ProFox Email List'" <profox@leafe.com> Date: Friday, November 21, 2008, 2:51 AM Which kind of proves my point. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: Friday, 21 November 2008 6:17 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it? How silly. ************************************************* Barack Obama is not My President http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Fri, 11/21/08, Geoff Flight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Geoff Flight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it? To: "'ProFox Email List'" <profox@leafe.com> Date: Friday, November 21, 2008, 2:30 AM You are supposed to be such an advanced culture and economy yet you don't have basic health and welfare sorted out. It really isn't that hard if you assume profit isn't the only motivation behind every single policy. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pete Theisen Sent: Friday, 21 November 2008 5:55 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] 25 billion won't do it? Geoff Flight wrote: > It is quite weird to hear talk of US companies and their 'health and > pension' costs. Here in Australia we have national health and well organized > superannuation. Companies don't have to provide this junk. While national > health and welfare seems to be anathema to Americans for some reason, this > is just another good reason why you should have it. > Hi Geoff! You don't understand. If they let 63 year old me live in a house, eat food, get around in a car, take medicine and see a doctor I might socialize with women and (gasp) father a child. As it is, instead I will die if they aggressively neglect me. Then, free from the scourge of all these domestic children, they can import their teenage labor from Mexico. Simple when you think it through. -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ [excessive quoting removed by server] _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.