Geoff Flight wrote: > You are starting with the 'specious interpretation' phase of statistics > which places like NRA do. Deaths of criminals don't count (in your view) and > are therefore conveniently ignored. Suicides are ignored because they 'don't > matter' and so on it goes. And even with that invalid statistical > interpretation method you still end up with a huge number of accidental > deaths - deaths Australia has virtually none of because people don't have > (or need) guns. > > The NRA stats still seem confusing. As if they are obsfucating the > underlying data. 30,000 deaths but 32000 SUICIDES?
Hi Geoff! Not all suicides involve guns. > Geoff Flight wrote: >> Lets assume I was wrong and 30,000 is the correct figure. How does that in >> any way change the force of my argument? THIRTY THOUSAND people killed by >> guns. And you don't see a problem? Ignoring crime related gun deaths is >> absurd! One of the major arguments about guns is that they are used in >> crimes! Suicides may be a debatable stat although some would say the >> prevalence of guns encourages suicide although I will admit that is >> arguable. > > Hi Geoff! > > Criminals getting killed, either by each other, their intended victims > or the cops is not a huge social problem in my eyes, the fewer criminals > the better. These are about half of the non suicides. Take out the > suicides and the crook deaths and you have a bottom 100 statistic. Now > if you were to get excited about car accident deaths I would be more > impressed. -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: [email protected] Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[email protected] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
