GM fully owns Holden over here. Holden developed the zeta framework now used on all GM rear-wheel drive vehicles. So they are picking up quality and technical advantages from overseas. It just isn't enough. I think one of the most ironic moves was when Ford bought Jaguar and its first function was to improve Jaguars quality. Jag made some awesome cars but their reliability was just awful. If I had a choice Id buy a v12 jag but the costs to repair are enormous and far too often. And resale values on jags are close to worse in the market.
I just love my FPV-GT! -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Stephen Russell Sent: Wednesday, 18 February 2009 9:04 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] As usual, Calvin was ahead of his time On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 4:21 PM, Geoff Flight <[email protected]> wrote: > Part of the problem is that American cars are known the world over as having > terrible build quality compared to pretty much everyone else (we'll exclude > the Chinese tho!) And they aren't cheaper either. So people are asked to > choose between a locally produced poor quality vehicle and a similarly > priced imported superior vehicle. > > Here in Australia we went thru the same thing 20 years ago. The govt forced > manufacturers to make a better product at a reasonable price by reducing > tariff protection. Two of the 5 manufacturers shut up shop and left. The > other 3 (Ford GM/Holden and Toyota) now make world-class cars of excellent > quality and price. America needs to do the same. But you need to recognize > one of them will probably go under. And it will be GM who are already dead > but wont lie down. ------------------------------------- I thought that when Ford and GM started to buy up the smaller mfgs around the world it was to not only control the market, but to learn more about quality. Volvo as a prize in name and recognition should have given Ford a heads up on how to do things better, and I think they learned. GM won't die. Much like Toyota. If GM cuts back on it's advertising and funding of the USA sports empires they have a good chance. I wonder what the burden of Football, Basketball, Baseball, Hockey to name a few are on the actual price of a vehicle? Expand that over the globe to futbol and others and it is probably a huge % on each vehicle. 8% maybe more? I have no idea, but I am sick and tired watching truck ads. -- Stephen Russell Sr. Production Systems Programmer First Horizon Bank Memphis TN 901.246-0159 [excessive quoting removed by server] _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: [email protected] Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[email protected] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
