> >> So you are playing games.
> >>
> >
> > Why should I take either of you seriously?
> >
> You shouldn't take me seriously.

Actually I don't, and I think we have an understanding of each other on this
point. ;)

And frankly I think it's helped our dialog tremendously. :)

> But Geoff is talking seriously, so
> even
> if you don't agree with him an educated person would take him seriously
> (or at least pretend to).

He is not taking anything seriously but his own opinion. 

I tried taking his arguments seriously, and I seriously extended my own
points and counter-points on many occasions, but he simply doesn't want to
confront information that takes him out of his comfort zone without making
it about the other person's mental health, or some kind of group-think
referendum. 

This latest "observation" about how everyone agrees with his definition of
conspiracy theorist and his ham-fisted way of attempting once again to
attach that label to me after I effectively demolished his argument
point-by-point in a separate thread, and despite the fact that this post
itself has nothing whatever to do with conspiracies, proves how un-seriously
he's taking any debate.

What's amusing about this in the context of this thread is that I agree with
Vince (mark it on your calendar ;) ), and not Mike----yet Geoff nevertheless
sees what he wants to see: Mike and Bob always on the "same team" and both
suffering the same malady he has conveniently diagnosed for us.

Which is what you do, which is why I lump Geoff with you in terms of
seriousness.

At least you and I can occasionally jump over a cliff on different tethers
and poke each other in the eye good-naturedly on the way down. I don't even
get to have that kind of fun with Geoff, who is about as intellectually
curious as a pet rock.

I thought he was Christian, so I tried harder in his case. But he's one of
those neutered Christians who thinks it's more important to compartmentalize
one's faith in such a way as not to disturb any of his secular friends or
challenge their opinions. So he's spiritually dysfunctional. Whatever
worship he may experience in his church he binds down, so that it has no
chance whatever of affecting his worldly political views. He's probably
rationalized that the opposite is true by embracing the Left's alleged love
of the poor and downtrodden, as some kind of Christian *political* duty.
(This by the way is precisely what Liberation Theology in all its forms
attempts to do: neuter Christ's message of eternal salvation so it sounds
just like Che Guevara's and Fidel Castro's social gospel of societal
salvation.) So he's as blind as everybody else to the rise of a dangerous
demagogue and false messiah in Obama.

Instead of engage the evidence, he attacks me personally. Well, let's get it
on then! I can play that game. As you know. :)

- Bob 



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