You treat some of these online discussions as if they were parliamentary
committee meetings or court-based trials where each and every point must be
addressed in comprehensive detail. It isn't. Frankly, if I was to debate
each and every point my posts would be twice as long as yours and we really
don't want to do that do we?

You really don't like people challenging your thought processes or your
belief set. I'm not going to debate you point by point. I am debating your
ultra-pessimism and the way you view the world. It is a legitimate process
and argument. You don't set the rules for debate or discussion simply by
writing large screeds of text. I would oppose you in fine detail in much the
same way I do in broad strokes. I believe in hope. I believe in faith. The
times we face are indeed challenging and no more so than for the USA. They
will not be defeated by politics and policies - good tools though they may
be. They will be defeated by people standing up together with one word on
their lips - HOPE.

Come and join the solution bob.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Bob Calco
Sent: Sunday, 22 February 2009 9:06 AM
To: 'ProFox Email List'
Subject: RE: [OT] Land of the Free

> And the next method of the CT is to attack a person's beliefs etc. How
> lame.
> The point (if you care to follow it) is that you DON'T address my
> issues but
> rather restate your opinion in yet another long-winded and repetitive
> treatise. Put simply I believe your approach is one to find the most
> convoluted and atypical approach you can find. I don't believe you are
> a CT.
> The very fact you can spell and construct an argument dispels that BUT
> you
> do display some of the traits and one of the biggest is an absolute
> belief
> in your own arguments despite the fact they represent a minority view.
> 
> And your attacks on my Christianity are despicable. We can debate, we
> can
> argue and we can (and probably will, disagree). But leave that kind of
> mindless judgmental behavior out if it. It degrades you personally and
> sullies your argument.  It certainly lowers your respect.

Geoff:

You were the first to question my Christianity, in broad strokes, then you
went after my mental health. I don't like going there in a tit-for-tat in
general, and I regret it, but I was not dishonest in my opinion about either
your Christian faith or your psychology, since you raised the issues and
made them such a recurring theme of your "responses". 

You are the one trying to hoist the "CT" label on me---which now you claim
not to believe. Your paragraph above is at war with itself.

I haven't to my knowledge ignored or left unaddressed a single point of
yours, while you have preferred to lecture me about things that have no
bearing on the topic (like whatever you think you understand about
psychology, public opinion and the definition of conspiracy theorist)
instead of dig into the information I have provided. If my thought process
seems convoluted or desultory this is because you've lazily copped out of
any attempt to understand my thought process.

Or go ahead, dazzle me, show me just how well you understand my point of
view? And feel free to tell me which point of yours I failed to address.

- Bob 



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