< So now I'm ...

- A phoney Christian... well, but you didn't mean to imply that exactly.
- Mentally ill ... well, no, actually just in need of a little therapy.
- A conspiracy theorist... actually no, just someone with 1 of the 12 traits
you listed, i.e., verbosity.>

You do my job better than I can possibly do it myself. You see (and read)
exactly what you want to see.

And you qualify under more than just ONE of the 12 traits of a CT. That
would prove precisely nothing. You exhibit MULTIPLE traits.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Bob Calco
Sent: Monday, 23 February 2009 8:36 AM
To: 'ProFox Email List'
Subject: RE: [OT] Land of the Free

> You treat some of these online discussions as if they were
> parliamentary
> committee meetings or court-based trials where each and every point
> must be
> addressed in comprehensive detail. It isn't. Frankly, if I was to
> debate
> each and every point my posts would be twice as long as yours and we
> really
> don't want to do that do we?
> 
> You really don't like people challenging your thought processes or your
> belief set. 
> I'm not going to debate you point by point. I am debating
> your
> ultra-pessimism and the way you view the world. It is a legitimate
> process
> and argument. You don't set the rules for debate or discussion simply
> by
> writing large screeds of text. 
> I would oppose you in fine detail in
> much the
> same way I do in broad strokes. I believe in hope. I believe in faith.
> The
> times we face are indeed challenging and no more so than for the USA.
> They
> will not be defeated by politics and policies - good tools though they
> may
> be. They will be defeated by people standing up together with one word
> on
> their lips - HOPE.
> 
> Come and join the solution bob.

So now I'm ...

- A phoney Christian... well, but you didn't mean to imply that exactly.
- Mentally ill ... well, no, actually just in need of a little therapy.
- A conspiracy theorist... actually no, just someone with 1 of the 12 traits
you listed, i.e., verbosity.

AH, now you finally found it!

- A pessimist.

Folks who know me personally see me differently than you can see me through
this forum. 

On the matter of Obama and America's near future, where I am not exactly
bullish, and have been shall we say eager to share my discoveries, I simply
see the handwriting on the wall.

Obama's hope is a false one, built on a carefully choreographed cult of
personality, cultivated after the well-tested model of liberation theology
in Central America--a Marxist co-opting of Christian symbols to promote
radical redistribution of wealth and a command-and-control economic
policies. He is neither who he says he is, nor has he achieved the things he
said he'd achieved (esp. the memoirs, which are what people always point to
in order to conclude how gosh-darn smart he is---but do they read them?
Apparently not.). 

I conclude these things based on lots of evidence, both direct and
circumstantial, information you'd prefer to ignore because, like so many
people, you just want to hope he's The One, and because the implications of
the facts are simply too scary to confront as reality, so it's easier to
just blow them off as unreality. 

Well, he isn't the One. And this one fact alone will have profound
consequences for everyone around the world. The whole world can hold hands
and sing kumbaya, it doesn't change who Obama really is, and what he really
represents. He can change ---that's my only hope at the moment, that he can
be blinded by the light, experience deep metanoia, and have the scales fall
off his own eyes---but unless he does, the logic holds, and the handwriting
on the wall for America is clear.

MENE, MENE, TEKEL, UPHARSIN.

- Bob



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