Whoops, I cleaned this up a little. 1) USA democracy cannot survive under the coexistence of two equal, but separate highest laws of the land, (eg The Patriot Act and The Constitution). Over time, either the Patriot Act or the Constitution will prevail. If the Patriot Act prevails, Americans will be ruled by a fearful, paranoid government with all the tentacles that implies like secret police, surveillance of ordinary citizen, forfeiture of human rights and freedoms, loss of the right to due process, and loss of the right to privacy.
2) I have no problem with using generally accepted international law in making rulings on constitutional law. Everything should have its place, but the constitution and its legal precedences should carry the most weight. Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: > Bob Calco wrote: >>> I feel much better now that President Obama has taken the reins of >>> power. >> And it's all about how you feel, isn't it? > > Too me it is. LOL > >>> Real freedom will only come after the Patriot Act has been >>> dismantled, >> LOL! Obama has taken Bush's position on this one, Leland. > > The USA democracy cannot survive under the coexistence of two equal, but > separate highest laws of the land, (eg The Patriot Act and The > Constitution). Over time, either the Patriot Act or the Constitution > will prevail. If the Patriot Act prevails, Americans will be ruled by a > fearful, paranoid government with all the tentacles that implies like > secret police, surveillance of ordinary citizen, forfeiture of human > rights and freedoms, loss of the right to due process, and loss of the right > to privacy. > >>> Guantanamo Bay House of Horrors closed, >> Symbolism over substance. > > > The symbolism fits and is very real. > >> Obviously, we need more radical Islamic terrorists in US prisons, where they >> can proselytize young negroes and cajole them into bombing Jewish >> synagogues. > > Why not use the prison time to indoctrinate or reprogram the extremist, > thus de-radicalising them and preparing them for return to a normal life. > >>> a new moderate >>> Supreme Court assembled, >> Unless it gets more conservative, it's not going to be more moderate. > > President Obama thinks Justice Roberts and Justice Alito are much more > conservative than they let on during their conformation hearings, so he > will need to appoint some countervailing forces to swing the court back > towards the middle of the road. > >>> and the establishment of the USA as a country >>> in which the constitution is once again the highest law of the land. >> Then you might not like Obama's appointment for State Dept. Legal advisor, >> Harold Koh, who thinks that the Constitution needs to take a back seat to >> foreign laws and legal opinions. > > > >>> President Obama has hit a few bumps lately. >> Just wait til the effects of his policies sink in! > > I can't wait for the recession to end. > >>> I'm disappointed in >>> congress not supporting the closing of our Cuban House of Horrors, as >>> most of the Senators and Representative of the House seem to have put >>> covering their own butts to ensure re-election in 2010 and 2012 ahead >>> of >>> doing what must be done to put the USA back on the moral high ground in >>> the struggle against terrorism. I really can't blame congress, though. >>> If I were in congress, I would probably vote against closing >>> Guantanamo too, because one serious event from anyone previously >>> detained their could cost anyone voting for the closing of Guantanamo >>> their re-election. >> Divide by zero error trying to process that one, sorry. > > LOL > > Regards, > > LelandJ >> - Bob >> >>> Regards, >>> >>> LelandJ >> >> [excessive quoting removed by server] _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: [email protected] Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[email protected] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
