>> It's much better and more rewarding to do it freely before the big >> weenie roast. ;) >> > Sorry, I'm pretty dumb you know. After you stop breathing there are two > possible choices in the scenario you describe : > a) You have no free will. Ergo you CANNOT bow your knees and confess > FREELY. You are FORCED to do it. So after you die the dice are cast, > there is no repentance possible, as you have NO free will. > b) You have free will. So if you don't feel like it you don't bow. > You can't have it both ways, so please, for a dumb hillbilly like me, > which do you choose, 'a' or 'b'?
Well, you did warn me you were dumb. For some reason I didn't believe you. While you're alive in the flesh, 'b'. This is the time you have free will. After that, 'a'. > >> The irony of free will is that your freedom is to surrender your will >> to God, or not. > So if I choose not to surrender my will to god I don't have to bow and > confess? Or what is your definition of 'will'? He forces no one while the choice is on the table. you make your choice while you're alive, suffer/enjoy the consequences forever after. >> (Peter is a very heartening example---talk >> about a serial screw up who triumphed eventually) > You mean Peter Thiesen? He is STILL a serial screw up and a looser. No I meant Peter the disciple, the one that tried to walk on water, chopped the soldier's ear off when they arrested Jesus, and denied Jesus 3 times before the cock crowed. Unless Pete is a lot older than he's let on, and somehow survived an upside-down crucifixion, I am pretty sure it's not our Pete. ;) > >> I will gladly admit, I screw up all the time, struggle much with the >> basic concepts of being nice and loving even my enemies---it's all >> very contrary to our natural inclinations--- and have no monopoly on >> righteousness. I'll be lucky to be a toilet repair man in Heaven. :) >> But at least I'm on the right side of eternity > Unless god is a brit, in which case I'll be on the LEFT side of eternity > and in a much better position. Har har. > >> , and occasionally hear >> the still, small voice of He Who Build the World. Hope to see you >> there, friend, should we never have an opportunity to meet in this >> life. >> > Naaahhh.... All the gorgeous slutty chicks, good tv shows, roulette, > poker, and fun will be on the other side. It's not quite the party scene you imagine...... >> Free will, you bet. But >> it will cost you total obedience, whichever way you go, whether you >> realize to whom you are a slave, or not. > Sorry, slavery is not for me. Not even to such exalted characters. I'm > kind of a rebel, you see. So fuck god and fuck the devil, I'd rather > stop existing than being a slave to any of them. I don't pretend to > rule, but if someone must be on top of another then be certain it's my > foot you are feeling on your neck. > No offense, but you highly overrate your own "power". You will be a slave to one or the other, so choose wisely. One loves you from the foundations of the world, the other loathes you. It's not a hard choice, really, but our pride gets in the way and before you know it we're the devil's bitch. Weeeeeeee. Hope you like that kind of thing, because that's what awaits you, unless of course you freely choose otherwise. Think of poker and slutty chicks and all that in the way that a carp in the river views a worm on a hook. Oh, that's right, being of similar intellect to the carp, you already do....;) - Publius _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: [email protected] Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[email protected] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
