John, 
I used Malware Bytes as Michael says and ComboFix. Specifically, Combo fix
is a great tool for removing all types of spyware etc from your PC.

As for finding it out, I knew that I had something on there as the PC was
running so damned slow.

Dave C


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of John Weller
Sent: 09 December 2009 09:55
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [NF] Replacement for Windows Update?

Hi Dave,

If AVG and Microsoft failed to spot it how did you find it and what did you
do to eliminate it?

John Weller
01380 723235
07976 393631  

> 
> Joel,
> Sounds like a problem I had a while ago. The slowness in 
> "identifying" the hardware was down to a Trojan I had picked 
> up "Virtumonde"
> "http://www.virtumonde.net/"; allied to something called "SmitFraud".
> 
> The AVG and Microsoft software didn't pick them up. Removing 
> both of these resulted in a scan time for updates of 2 
> minutes as opposed to 2 hours.
> 
> Dave Crozier


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