Nick,

Explain why the Mars ice caps are shrinking if no one is there to emit Carbon 
Dioxide?

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/02/070228-mars-warming.html

One can only conclude that it is solar energy, not carbon dioxide that is 
causing the ice caps to melt.


--- On Mon, 12/14/09, Nicholas Geti <[email protected]> wrote:

> From: Nicholas Geti <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [OT] In Bolivia, Water and Ice Tell of Climate Change
> To: "ProFox Email List" <[email protected]>
> Date: Monday, December 14, 2009, 3:32 PM
> Actually you keep insisting that the
> planet is not getting warmer and use 
> the recent flap about certain scientists using fake emails
> as an example to 
> show that global warming is a myth. Well, I for one believe
> it is truly 
> happening.
> 
> I also believe that greenhouse gases are the major cause.
> To have the earth 
> heat up in just a generation or two is not some part of a 4
> billion year 
> cycle. It has to be caused by something that can be
> controlled.
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Michael Madigan" <[email protected]>
> To: "ProFox Email List" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 1:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [OT] In Bolivia, Water and Ice Tell of Climate
> Change
> 
> 
> Nick,
> 
> I never said the Earth wasn't warming, I said it wasn't
> caused by Carbon 
> Dioxide or Man.  Therefore there's nothing we can do
> about it.
> 
> 
> 
> --- On Mon, 12/14/09, Nicholas Geti <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> 
> > From: Nicholas Geti <[email protected]>
> > Subject: [OT] In Bolivia, Water and Ice Tell of
> Climate Change
> > To: [email protected]
> > Date: Monday, December 14, 2009, 12:22 PM
> > Here's another one for you Michael,
> > http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/14/science/earth/14bolivia.html?_r=1&th&emc=th
> >
> > Their glacier is disappearing and no longer providing
> water
> > to this village. If the planet is not warming, why
> are
> > glaciers melting so fast? Are these people imagining
> that
> > they don't have enough water as they used to?
> >
> > Comment by a scientist in that article.
> > "The effects are appearing much more rapidly than we
> can
> > respond to them, and a reservoir takes five to seven
> years
> > to build. I'm not sure we have that long," said Edson
> > Ramírez, a Bolivian glaciologist who has documented
> and
> > projected the glaciers' retreat for two decades.
> >
> > The retreat has outpaced his wildest predictions. He
> had
> > predicted that one glacier, Chacaltaya, would last
> until
> > 2020. It disappeared this year. In 2006, he said El
> Alto
> > water demand would outstrip supply by 2009. It
> happened.
> >
> >
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