I have no knowledge of the details at Copenhagen's conference. But why do 
you assume because I believe that our planet is indeed warming, that I 
approve of Copenhagen conference letting China off the hook. This is all 
political bs. China is the worst polluter in the world. Have you seen the 
satellite pictures of a dust plume coming from their mining and mfg 
facilities near Mongolia? It is thousands of miles across and full of 
mercury, lead, and all the other heavy metals plus dangerous gases.

Why do you assume I approve of "treatying" away our rights. At no time have 
I ever written about any of these "Constitutional safeguards" you keep 
mentioning that I approve of. I am not even sure we will lose anything in 
any case.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Publius Maximus" <[email protected]>
To: "ProFox Email List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 8:03 AM
Subject: Re: [OT] In Bolivia, Water and Ice Tell of Climate Change


>I want Nick to answer this, because all I ever hear from people who
> are for "doing something" is certitudes and platitudes about the
> alleged problem.
>
> I'd like Nick to explain why Copenhagen's attempt to create a "global
> governance" and establish the concept of "climate debt" and exempt
> India and China is a good idea that will help fix things, and why he's
> OK treatying away our Constitutional safeguards in exchange for...
> what?
>
> - Publius
>
> On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 6:18 PM, Pete Theisen <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>> Publius Maximus wrote:
>>
>>> What are the essential provisions in the Copenhagen treaty, and why
>>> are they a good idea?
>>
>> Hi Bob,
>>
>> There are 32 points. One thing that hit me right away was that it is to
>> replace the Kyoto Protocol.
>>
>> There is an assumption in the language that all this stuff is some kind
>> of fact, no acknowledgement that the scientists have been caught lying
>> through their teeth - in other words, same old, same old. A *lot* of
>> generalizing, big buzzwords and plenty of money, of course.
>>
>> Not a word about the lap dances.
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copenhagen_treaty
>> http://www.scribd.com/doc/23831690/Copenhagen-Climate-Change-Agreement
>>
>> It appears from the Guardian article that the developing countries' rep
>> thinks it snubs his constituents.
>>
>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/dec/09/copenhagen-summit-danish-text-leak
>>
>> Of course, since the whole thing is a farce we need to bag it all up and
>> stuff it into Al Gore's back yard. At least it isn't 2000 pages.
>> --
>> Regards,
>>
>> Pete
>> http://pete-theisen.com/
>> http://elect-pete-theisen.com/
>>
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