Nicholas Geti wrote: > Who said that it was only CO2? The gases on the full list are methane, > nitrous oxide, ozone, and chlorofluorocarbons. In addition to the effect of > these gases is deforestation which is also a major factor in planet warming. >
But that's unfair!!! You are actually talking facts! NONONONO! Bad boy! Besides which, it seems these people have never heard of studying the atmospheric composition by drilling deep into ice (they can even measure the temperature of the clouds at the time the snow fell through the ratio of oxygen isotopes(O18/O16)). We are talking 1969 here!!! Also check "palynology" and Milankovitch" in your google. There is also radiocarbon dating of glacial moraine, the study of oxygen built into fossil shells pulled out from the sea floor to measure ancient temperatures (check "Harold Urey" and/or "Cesare Emiliani"). All these techniques allow us to measure and correlate CO2 and temperature a few years back, let's say......1920? or maybe hundreds of thousands of years back? Naahhh! Antarctic ice sheet formed during the Eocene–Oligocene transition ( 33.5–34.0 million years ago) so I guess we can go as far back as our drills allow. So please Bobby, you may argue whatever you want but remember we are in the 21st century and not in the middle ages (where opinion had more weight than facts). Bobby here reminds us of the tobacco companies saying it has not been "proven" that tobacco causes cancer. Maybe not to their high standards, but. Would you encourage your son to smoke his ass off until it is fully proven? Could your son argue that "this is politics" to prevent his income to be redistributed to the tobacco companies? I love my daughter and I will no doubt love my grandchildren when they come, and I am not willing to take that chance on their future (Minimus's dick OTOH does not perform properly so he'll never have children nor grandchildren, hence his position on this subject). I'd rather use public transport, pay a little more for "clean" technologies, and pay a little more taxes so as to be able to pay Brazil and Africa so they don't deplete their ecologic environments. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael Madigan" <[email protected]> > To: "ProFox Email List" <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 1:51 PM > Subject: Re: [OT] Re: In Bangladesh,climate change is a matter of life and > death > > > The fact that the Earth has been cooling since 1998 cannot be explained by > the lowering of CO2 so it has to be something other than CO2 > > --- On Mon, 12/14/09, Nicholas Geti <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> From: Nicholas Geti <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [OT] Re: In Bangladesh, climate change is a matter of life >> and death >> To: "ProFox Email List" <[email protected]> >> Date: Monday, December 14, 2009, 12:08 PM >> I fail to see how 4 billion years >> relate to recent events. Where do you >> think the sea water is coming from that is rising in >> Bangladesh? Delivered >> by comets or coming from melting glaciers? >> >> The ice in the Arctic is melting at a furious rate. The >> Northwest Passage is >> opening wider and sooner every year. The people who cannot >> see this >> happening should be arrested for stupidity. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Michael Madigan" <[email protected]> >> To: "ProFox Email List" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 2:28 AM >> Subject: Re: [OT] Re: In Bangladesh,climate change is a >> matter of life and >> death >> >> >> Nick, >> >> Temperatures have been recorded accurately since about >> 1850, so we have >> about 160 years of data. >> >> The Earth is about 4 billion years >> old. That means we are only looking at >> a tiny slice of time. There is no way to predict the >> future based on real >> temperature readings of only 160 years of a 4 billion year >> old planet. >> >> This is like predicting the future of the stock market >> using the last 1 >> second of data. >> >> These people who are perpetrating this hoax should be >> arrested for fraud >> >> >> >> >> [excessive quoting removed by server] _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: [email protected] Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[email protected] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
