> > I don't believe that filters solve the problem. It's like there's a guy in > > the back of the room heckling and shouting nonsense every time you try to > > talk, and while you can put in an earplug, you know it's happening and > > others are listening, which frustrates the forum in different ways. > > Filtering works fine for me. I see the technical talk, > and I see an occasional OT from people I respect. And I don't > give a rat's ass if someone is spewing nonsense, nor do I > care about the fool who is dumb enough to listen.
It's a missed opportunity and a wasted resource. In a world so badly in need of "course corrections" technology people can make a difference. Would we prefer the fruits of our work be just lines of code? Aren't we interested in the concepts that can make a difference? Don't we see that technology and society are intervowen? Look what's happening in China today. The stage is set and the Chinese people are going to fight for what they want: an uncensored Internet. Should we wait for them to lead the way beyond that? > I don't like a lot of programs on TV, either. But I > don't obsess over them, nor do I write the TV stations asking > them to do something about a show I dislike, and that others > may be watching. I either change the channel or turn it off. I do the same thing, but we're not diminishing it's influence. > > Some just leave, some are inhibited from talking, some are confused, some are > > mad, etc. Thus what could have been an incubator for useful idea development > > becomes a stricken neighborhood. > > > > Where's the creativity? > > Bill, nothing is stopping you from being creative. > Instead of complaining that no one is making your ideal > environment, why not go ahead and do it yourself? Couple of reasons: - I think ProFox is great. It's an institution you've created that has endured longer then many others, so you've got the right formula. I'm just looking at one problem, and imagining. - I have no sense of political correctness - I'm already using sleep time for great reasons > > Ed, don't you work for a company whose business is the > cloud? What do they have to say? > > What does cloud computing have to do with anything? > Since November, ProFox has been hosted on a cloud server. Did > you notice a change? > > Cloud computing isn't centralized control of content, > which is what you seem to be implying. It's simply making > resources available in a much more flexible manner. It's a metaphor, of course. In a way, I love words, but they are too often badly chosen, spun or abused (as in "patriot act"). This one, I think, manages to hit a high note and hasn't been tainted - yet. To me, it symbolizes the abstract world of computers and the Internet in a single, simple word that average people can relate to, as the place where "the Internet lives". Exactly what comprises the Internet, well, we're still doing that, and in this context I'm suggesting there may be gold in those hills in the form of avatars attending virtual meetings. I come up with ideas all the time. Some work and some flop. My thinking here is to encourage curiosity and discussion on the possibilities, mindful that someone else may well see something I'm missing. > > Don't they see a great opportunity to make the net more useful, > > even just for themselves at first? I see IBM has gone with something like > > second city. Isn't that inspiring? > > > Get a grip. This is an email list. It's not a virtual > world or anything. I'm surprised you would say that. Aren't you working with people whose imaginations are at least tickled by the possibilities? Aren't you guys already offering something like second life and virtual meeting facilities as a service within your 'cloud' offerings? Bill > > > -- Ed Leafe > > > > [excessive quoting removed by server] _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: [email protected] Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/0a537429cae4497a8f9f09ae4f445...@bills ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
