On 10/17/2012 01:42 AM, geoff wrote:
wow... you make my own point even better than I do.
In a way, we are talking about the same thing. What would happen if the
sand assholes were to attack an Australian embassy, and kill 4 Ozzies?
Do you mean to tell me that Oz won't defend its embassy, or rather, ask
the US or GB to do it?
your way around every
problem is to declare war? Do you really yet understand why the USA is
growing more hated every day? It is because of answers like this. You are a
bully. Your country is a bully. And when someone blows stuff up and kills
some of your people you cry and then wonder why it all happened and why
people hate you. Did it EVER occur to you to behave according to your own
human rights declarations? Gitmo exists because of the failure of the
american conscience. Because the place it outside the reach of your
constitution, you torture and detain without due process because you CAN.
Whatever happened to PRINCIPLE? Whatever happened to being the 'light on the
hill' to democracy and freedom? All around the world, countries you would
describe as 'lesser democracies' thank God they are not like the USA which
has sold its principles down the river.
Imagine the outrage and violence that would result if the Russian Embassy
decided to fly in helicopters and troops without state dept approval? WAR
could result. But because you CAN, you think you SHOULD.
Bring on the next Cold War. Maybe that will shut you lot up and keep you
from treating the entire world as your rightful playground.
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On 10/17/2012 01:09 AM, geoff wrote:
Hi Goeff,
OK, if necessary to get some blowhard or another to shut up, the president
can essentially declare war on (whoever is attacking) which would fall
within his/her war powers, subsequent to a ratification by congress if the
war is to continue. Nothing but the defeat of the US would ever satisfy you
despite your protestations, but it would satisfy the US law.
What, you afraid Oz will be next? Not even on the radar. Oz knows how to
deal with Islam, and we respect that even if you don't.
http://www.workpermit.com/news/2012-09-20/australian-prime-minister-says-imm
igrants-have-duty-to-integrate
This is why so many people thank God that you never got elected or
anywhere near the levers of power. You think might is right. You also
think that your own opinion is intrinsically correct. it is NOWHERE
near that simple. 'Your soil' does not include the air corridors to it
nor the roads that surround it or even the air above you. That means
you cannot bring troops there or land helicopters or anything else
without libyan govt approval. And all of that is just the beginning to the
complexities that you simply do not see.
You might think that being american entitles you to breach
international law and convention, but the rest of the world does not.
and that is in part why you are so unpopular around the world. You are
not the world's policeman - despite your wishes. We could live with
that. You are increasingly acting as nothing more than the worlds
bully, so much so that people are now hoping for a resurgent Russia
and China just to stop you interfering everywhere and give you other
counties to fight instead of the small ones.
-----Original Message-----
From: ProFox [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pete
Theisen
Sent: Wednesday, 17 October 2012 2:01 PM
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On 10/16/2012 05:22 PM, geoff wrote:
Do you seriously think it is that simple?
Hi Geoff,
The embassy grounds are US soil, by treaty. Don't admit that you
didn't know that.
Hi Geoff,
It in fact is that simple. Do you seriously think it's not?
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Regards,
Pete
http://pete-theisen.com/
http://elect-pete-theisen.com/
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