We wouldn't send in the army or air-force into another country's sovereign
territory to do so. That is an act of war which of course is how you think.
But also, we dont act like arrogant pricks, ignoring everyone elses laws and
rights as you do. That is the cause of the problem. the rest of the world
can manage not to get their embassies attacked. Why cant you?

-----Original Message-----
From: ProFox [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pete
Theisen
Sent: Wednesday, 17 October 2012 4:25 PM
To: ProFox Email List
Subject: Re: [OT] Hil takes one for the Bammer

On 10/17/2012 01:42 AM, geoff wrote:
> wow... you make my own point even better than I do.

In a way, we are talking about the same thing. What would happen if the sand
assholes were to attack an Australian embassy, and kill 4 Ozzies? 
Do you mean to tell me that Oz won't defend its embassy, or rather, ask the
US or GB to do it?

> your way around every
> problem is to declare war? Do you really yet understand why the USA is 
> growing more hated every day? It is because of answers like this. You 
> are a bully. Your country is a bully. And when someone blows stuff up 
> and kills some of your people you cry and then wonder why it all 
> happened and why people hate you. Did it EVER occur to you to behave 
> according to your own human rights declarations? Gitmo exists because 
> of the failure of the american conscience. Because the place it 
> outside the reach of your constitution, you torture and detain without due
process because you CAN.
> Whatever happened to PRINCIPLE? Whatever happened to being the 'light 
> on the hill' to democracy and freedom? All around the world, countries 
> you would describe as 'lesser democracies' thank God they are not like 
> the USA which has sold its principles down the river.
>
> Imagine the outrage and violence that would result if the Russian 
> Embassy decided to fly in helicopters and troops without state dept 
> approval? WAR could result. But because you CAN, you think you SHOULD.
>
> Bring on the next Cold War. Maybe that will shut you lot up and keep 
> you from treating the entire world as your rightful playground.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ProFox [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pete 
> Theisen
> Sent: Wednesday, 17 October 2012 4:05 PM
> To: ProFox Email List
> Subject: Re: [OT] Hil takes one for the Bammer
>
> On 10/17/2012 01:09 AM, geoff wrote:
>
> Hi Goeff,
>
> OK, if necessary to get some blowhard or another to shut up, the 
> president can essentially declare war on (whoever is attacking) which 
> would fall within his/her war powers, subsequent to a ratification by 
> congress if the war is to continue. Nothing but the defeat of the US 
> would ever satisfy you despite your protestations, but it would satisfy
the US law.
>
> What, you afraid Oz will be next? Not even on the radar. Oz knows how 
> to deal with Islam, and we respect that even if you don't.
>
> http://www.workpermit.com/news/2012-09-20/australian-prime-minister-sa
> ys-imm
> igrants-have-duty-to-integrate
>
>> This is why so many people thank God that you never got elected or 
>> anywhere near the levers of power. You think might is right. You also 
>> think that your own opinion is intrinsically correct. it is NOWHERE 
>> near that simple. 'Your soil' does not include the air corridors to 
>> it nor the roads that surround it or even the air above you. That 
>> means you cannot bring troops there or land helicopters or anything 
>> else without libyan govt approval. And all of that is just the 
>> beginning to the
> complexities that you simply do not see.
>> You might think that being american entitles you to breach 
>> international law and convention, but the rest of the world does not.
>> and that is in part why you are so unpopular around the world. You 
>> are not the world's policeman - despite your wishes. We could live 
>> with that. You are increasingly acting as nothing more than the 
>> worlds bully, so much so that people are now hoping for a resurgent 
>> Russia and China just to stop you interfering everywhere and give you 
>> other
> counties to fight instead of the small ones.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ProFox [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pete 
>> Theisen
>> Sent: Wednesday, 17 October 2012 2:01 PM
>> To: ProFox Email List
>> Subject: Re: [OT] Hil takes one for the Bammer
>>
>> On 10/16/2012 05:22 PM, geoff wrote:
>>> Do you seriously think it is that simple?
>>
>>> Hi Geoff,
>>>
>>> The embassy grounds are US soil, by treaty. Don't admit that you 
>>> didn't know that.
>>
>> Hi Geoff,
>>
>> It in fact is that simple. Do you seriously think it's not?
>> --
>> Regards,
>>
>> Pete
>> http://pete-theisen.com/
>> http://elect-pete-theisen.com/
>>
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