"There are always alternatives."  I am really curious, can you produce any
arbitrary tacit adverb where neither  @.  nor  `:6  appear in its code?



On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 5:06 PM, Raul Miller <[email protected]> wrote:

> I am probably being something horrible, but... I'm kind of baffled by
> the thinking that @. is not necessary because we can use a 532
> character expression instead.
>
> I mean, ok, sure, technically almost nothing is actually "necessary"
> because there are always alternatives. But, taken to its logical
> limit, computers fall in the same bucket, along with chairs, cars, and
> a variety of other such things which begin with the letter 'c'.
>
> --
> Raul
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 5:00 PM, Jose Mario Quintana
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I am glad to see you around here Dan.  If you only show around here from
> > time to time, or not ever again, the patrons and instructors can learn a
> > lot from you as your first post shows.  By the way, as long as there are
> > patrons and instructors, it is everybody's Jym.
> >
> > Regarding  @. ,in the context of this Jym, I also avoid it and, as far
> as I
> > can see, it can always be avoided (even from an orthodox standpoint)
> > because Adv's definition [0] does not rely on it and, in principle at
> > least, any tacit adverb can be expressed as v Adv.  I currently use it in
> > one tool, not because it is necessary, but because the context is ideal
> for
> >  @.  and therefore it is very efficient.
> >
> > [0] [Jprogramming] Tacit Toolkit (was dyadic J)
> >
> http://www.jsoftware.com/pipermail/programming/2015-December/043678.html
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 12:10 PM, Dan Bron <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Pepe wrote:
> >> > Instructors (Dan, Thomas et al. are you listening?),
> >>
> >>
> >> I always listen when you speak, Sensei. Though in recently years my
> review
> >> of J Forum traffic has been more sporadic.
> >>
> >> > a1 =:(`{.)(`{:)(@.1 0 2)
> >>
> >> Hey, I never thought of doing a1 in that fashion.  Neat approach.
> >>
> >> Personally, I keep @. in reserve, as my heavy artillery, for when my
> >> tactical mind, unsubtle as it is, is unavailable to find a way to route
> my
> >> infantry (primitive adverbs and bound primitive conjunctions) around a
> >> wall, and neither can my light cannon (`:6) pierce it.
> >>
> >> Anyway, to mix metaphors again, for those who are looking for some
> workout
> >> tips to train their tacit muscles (it is unwise to enter Pepe’s Jym
> >> unprepared), here’s a few I offered once, back when I could have been a
> >> contender:
> >>
> >>
> http://www.jsoftware.com/pipermail/programming/2010-November/021172.html <
> >>
> http://www.jsoftware.com/pipermail/programming/2010-November/021172.html>
> >>
> >> -Dan
> >>
> >>
> >>
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