> 1. I had no idea about 'dirss' dirss is part of the standard library, see jsoftware.com/help/user/library.htm .
> 2. I had no idea about '~addons' - what's with the tilde?? The tilde expression is documented in code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Guides/Folders_and_Projects > 3. rand11 references rand01, which requires another search, which may require different unknown parameters for dirss. Why not open up the script that defines rand11 and see if it defines rand01? It does so, on the previous line. > 4. ... This is a lot of knowledge required for someone just learning or exploring J. The same can be said for pretty well any programming system. But long time users of J should be aware of these things. On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 1:42 PM, 'Skip Cave' via Programming < programm...@jsoftware.com> wrote: > Chris suggests: > 'rand11' dirss '~addons' > > On my system, this results in: > > 'rand11' dirss '~addons' > > c:/program files/j64-805/addons/stats/base/random.ijs (2) > > interval (0,1) NB.*rand11 v generate y rando > > in interval (0,1) rand11=: <: @: +: @: rand01 N > > > Buried in the answer is the one-line code for rand11! Which is getting > closer to what I would like to see. However, > > > 1. I had no idea about 'dirss' > > 2. I had no idea about '~addons' - what's with the tilde?? > > 3. rand11 references rand01, which requires another search, which may > require different unknown parameters for dirss. > > 4. All this assumes I knew previously that: > > A. I knew that the code may be on my local system. > > B. That I needed to install the appropriate package on my local > system. > > D. That I knew *how* to install the right package. > > C. That the location of rand11 was in 'addons. > > > This is a lot of knowledge required for someone just learning or exploring > J. > > Luckily, I had recently installed ALL addons on my local system, so I > wouldn't have to guess on package names. > > > How would I know that the code for rand11 isn't even on the Jsoftware > website? And that I had to install a specific addon to my local machine get > it? It would seem to make sense that if the J interpreter code is open > source, with a link to the open-source J interpreter code on the Jsoftware > website (http://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Git), that there would also be > links to the code for various addon modules written in J, on the website. > > > I guess I'm just spoiled with the effectiveness of Google search, which > usually gets me an answer by typing something like "where is the code for > rand11" in the main search bar. Why couldn't J provide the same ease of > access on their website? > > > Skip > > > > On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 2:37 PM, chris burke <cbu...@jsoftware.com> wrote: > > > Skip asked how to find rand11 in the J system. I would either use dirss, > > e.g. > > > > 'rand11' dirss '~addons' > > /home/chris/j8/addons/stats/base/random.ijs (2) > > interval (0,1) NB.*rand11 v generate y rando > > s in interval (0,1) rand11=: <: @: +: @: rand01 N > > > > or menu Edit|Find in Files with the same result. Find in Files does > require > > that folder names be set up for locations where you want to search, e.g. > > define Addons as the addons directory, or the addons svn if you have that > > available. > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 12:29 PM, 'Skip Cave' via Programming < > > programm...@jsoftware.com> wrote: > > > > > Raul said: "It might be reasonable to expect someone to use > > > code.jsoftware.com to > > > see jsoftware code? > > > " > > > > > > It might be reasonable to expect that knowledge for someone who is > > > intimately familiar with the structure of the multiple Jsoftware > > > websites/wikis, but not to the average new user or curious explorer. > Even > > > if the user figures out that there are other websites associated with > the > > > Jsoftware site but not covered by the main search engine, then finds > the > > > second code website, and finds the rand11 description, the only clue to > > the > > > rand11 code's whereabouts is the cryptic psuedo-path " > > > Addons/stats/base/random > > > " with no indication whether this path is somewhere on the website, or > > > elsewhere. Not very helpful except for very experienced and > > knowledgable > > > J experts. > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
