Harvey wrote: 'Thus, as I see it, there are some basic J verbal constructions to get things done (such as reading/writing an array from/to a file) that are just going to have to be accepted on faith by newbies and learned by rote, so that they can use newly learned primitives with data that's meaningful to them.'
I agree. Being able to experience J on real data is so exciting. Dyalog APL has excellent clipboard support which I miss in J. Could we have a clipboard facility for Windows as good as Dyalog has? We now have wd 'clipcopy' and wd 'clippaste', which usually require some string manipulation to get the data into the right shape, especially if we are wanting to read in numbers. Would verbs like wincopy and winpaste, being dyadic and monadic respectively, each with a right argument specifying the target data type, be useful? Does somebody already have them to share? Regards Graham ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm