> From: Ian Clark > > Look, I can use any set of names we want. But I can't even make a > start without a set of names, and once chosen they unavoidably get set > in concrete. Has anyone got a showstopper of a reason not to go with > the list in > http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/Vocabulary/FormalPageNames ? > ...which is the same as column 4 in table 2 of > http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/Vocabulary/Discussion > > Aren't they're only placeholders as far as the end-user is concerned? > Is anyone seriously going to type them or have to remember them? I > can't think of a task that needs that.
After having attempted to author a couple of pages for the wiki dictionary, one thing that I have noticed is that it is useful to have "natural" (memorable) names when trying to write links to other pages. I'm moving more to the feeling that we should choose a simple set of names even if it means it doesn't exactly match some Official list. By and large I like the Red Book names, but I would support making a few changes where they result in more natural names: asciicircum -> circum asciitilde -> tilde period -> dot Sorry to throw a spanner in the works! > There's an argument for having a consistent set of names, taken from > some published source, not just an Irish Parliament of what we fancy. > Someone suggested the set from the Adobe Red Book and that's what I > went with. Even though it says "period" for "dot" (which I personally > don't fancy much, but I don't think it matters). > > Have I missed something in the long discussion we've had about it on > this thread? > If so stop me before I do another thing. > > Ian > > > On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 9:22 PM, neville holmes <holme...@yahoo.com.au> > wrote: > > I know it's rather presumptuous of me coming into this > > project from the sidelines, but, given the idea is to > > make things easier for novices, I do feel careful > > consideration should be given to J names. > > > > For example, in the names of Ian Clark's stubs: > > > > = equal > > =. equalperiod > > =: equalcolon > > < less > > <. lessperiod > > <: lesscolon > >> greater > >>. greaterperiod > >>: greatercolon > > > > Surely it should be equaldot &c. simply because, > > for a novice it's one syllable rather than three > > and for someone needing an English dictionary > > it's less ambiguous. > > > > Even more pedantically, less and greater strictly > > refer to magnitudes and lower and higher would be > > better. Otherwise, less means subtraction and > > lesser would be better than less. > > > > Neville Holmes, P.O. Box 2412, Bakery Hill 3354, Victoria > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends > http://au.messenger.yahoo.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > - > > For information about J forums see > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm