ĵaŭ, 11 Feb 2010, Robert P. Rumble skribis:
> I suggest that you keep using the long-standing J names for the functions,
> and reserve the Red Book (or other standard list) of names for the
> graphemes.
>
> Thus, the vocabulary is a list of primitive functions with names like
> negate, floor etc. that are invoked by typing graphemes with names like
> hyphen.
>
Both systems are sane that why there is discussion. I can think of 2
reasons por glyph name,
1. the english name for primaries inside DOJ are themselves informal.
the following is quoted from DOJ - vocabulary
/quote ----------------------------------------------------
E) Words possess considerable structure, as in +: and -: and *: and %: for
double, halve, square, and square
root. Moreover, a beginner can assign and use mnemonic names appropriate to
any native language, as in sqrt
=:%: and entier=:<. (French name) and sin=:1&o. and SIN=:1&o.@(%&1...@o.)
(for sine in degrees).
We will hereafter introduce and use new primitives with little or no
discussion, assuming that the reader will
experiment with them on the computer, consult the dictionary to determine their
meanings, or perhaps infer
their meanings from their structure. For example, the appearance of the word o.
suggests a circle; it was used
dyadically above to define the sine (one of the circular functions), and
monadically for the function pi times,
that is, the circumference of a circle when applied to its diameter.
For precise oral communication it may be best to use the names (or
abbreviations) of the symbols themselves, as
in:
< Left a (ngle) / Slash & Amp (ersand)
% Per (cent)
[ Left b (racket) \ Back (slash) @ At
; Semi (colon)
{ Left c (urly bracket) | Stile ^ Caret
~ Tilde
( Left p (arenthesis) _ (Under) Bar ` Grave
* Star
quote/ ----------------------------------------------------
2. Very beginners cannot associate function name to the symbol they
saw, eg, know not >. being ceiling, or else they do not have the
need to consult a dictionary.
I got a japanese-chinese dictionary (a book printed on paper), that
arrange words in the order of pronunciation in japanese. Since the
pronunciation of the same hanzi is completely different between
chinese and japanese, that dictionary is useless to me and I regretted
to have it bought.
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regards,
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