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> From: Abbas Amin <[email protected]>
>To: [email protected] 
>Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 2:58 PM
>Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Utang kita Rp2.200.000.000.000.000
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>Elo tuh percuma di puji2 terus oleh jusfiq. Ternyata pengetahuanmu debil amat 
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>From: item abu <[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Utang kita Rp2.200.000.000.000.000
>To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>Received: Saturday, 26 May, 2012, 5:44 AM
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>Oh jadi nabi lu itu memperbaiki hukum auloh, hehehe....
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>Nabi lu itu ngembat 100% harta rampokan dr orang Khaibar, ga bagi2 ke orang 
>Islam lainnya. Jadi apa salahnya ngembat 100% duit zakat ga bagi2 ke orang 
>lain? Mana tuh aturan nabi yg bilang pengurus zakat cuma boleh ngembat sekian 
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>>Rasul/Nabi. Dan itu sudah dilaksanakan. Jadi kamu tak perlu cape2 
>>memperbaaikinyaa lagi; hanya saja gak usah kamu komentarin sebagai NGEMBAT ! 
>>Itu kurang baik, tem. Biasa2 aajalah. napa sih sok ekstrim gitu ?
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>>Itu sih bukan aturan dr auloh, auloh bilang duit zakat itu unt yg ngurus 
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>>>Zakat itu adalah unt yg ngurus zakat antara lain. Mau lu sebut dpt bagian 
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>>>>>>>> tergantung kepada luar negeri. "Pemerintah dan Presiden SBY sudah 
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