ya iya lah. suryana dan teddy itu veteran di prol, semua juga tau reputasi dan kredibilitasnya. mereka berdua bukan cuman santun, tapi hidupnya makmur.
lah elu? elu anak baru kemaren sore udah petantang petenteng sok jago mau melibas islam lah, ngebantai reza lah, ngebunuh teddy lah. elu itu preman kacangan yg ngga punya kerjaan setelah dipecat majikan arab lu waktu jadi tki. ratusan kali ditanya gajinya berapa ngga pernah berani jawab. jusplik paling demen sama kecoa macem elu. makanya lu dipuji habis sama parasit van leiden itu. dan elu keliatannya girang banget dapet soulmate kayak si jusplik. --- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@...> wrote: > > Tentunya yg lu anggap cerdas dan santun itu model si suryana atau Teddy, > bukan? > > > > > >________________________________ > > From: johny_indon <johny_indon@...> > >To: [email protected] > >Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 11:10 AM > >Subject: [proletar] Re: Raymond Ibrahim: Are slave-girls in Islam equivalent > >to animals? > > > > > > > > > > > >temen gua yg kristen protestan banyak yg cerdas dan santun. > >ngga tau kenapa, di prol yg ada malah yg kayak si item gini. > >atau si item justru representasi dari kebanyakan kresten protestan yg > >sebenarnya? > >mudah2an sih bukan. > > > >--- In [email protected], Musik hari Ini <musikhariini@> wrote: > >> > >> Sesuai dengan omongan Johnny indo.....kalo elu mau promosi agama elu > >> (kresten protestan) > >> ya tunjukkanlah bahwa umat kresten protestan itu cerdas dan santun. > >> > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> From: item abu <itemabu@> > >> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > >> Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 5:00 PM > >> Subject: Re: [proletar] Raymond Ibrahim: Are slave-girls in Islam > >> equivalent to animals? > >> > >> > >> à> >> Lu mau kaing2 kayak apapun, faktanya adalah kata ganti yg dipake unt > >> ngerefer "milik tangan kanan" itu adalah kata ganti unt benda atau > >> binatang. Jadi auloh bilang lu halal ngembat binatang milik tangan kanan > >> lu. > >> > >> Ga bisa bantah dgn apa yg ada di jihadwatch.org lalu lu kaing2 kayak > >> anjing kejepit buntut, ga beda dgn si habe yg kaing2 dia punya 2 buku > >> Robert Spencer tp ga bisa bantah apa2. > >> > >> Yg tukang ngibul itu adalah orang Islam krn auloh ngehalalin ngibul dan > >> emang auloh jg ngaku sbg tukang tipu. > >> > >> Apa bukannya lu yg kaing2 nabi pedophile lu ngebebasin 7000 budak tp ga > >> ngasih referensi sama sekali yg nunjukin bhw lu ngibul? > >> > >> >________________________________ > >> > From: Musik hari Ini <musikhariini@> > >> >To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > >> >Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 5:30 PM > >> >Subject: Re: [proletar] Raymond Ibrahim: Are slave-girls in Islam > >> >equivalent to animals? > >> > > >> > > >> >à> >> >Omong kosong lu baca yang kagak masuk akal jihadwatch.org > >> >sampah itu yang lu sumpelin keotak lu,buka otaklu lebar2 makanya > >> >debat kok cuma pantat melulu yang elu bawa2 > >> > > >> >sesuai dengan omongan Johnny indo.....kalo elu mau promosi agama elu > >> >(kresten protestan) > >> >ya tunjukkanlah bahwa umat kresten protestan itu cerdas dan santun. > >> > > >> >terus2an nyerang islam, atau bilang katolik itu brengsek, > >> >ngga bakalan bikin orang simpati sama agama yg lagi elu jual, yg terjadi > >> >malah jadi sebaliknya. > >> > > >> >elu itu salesman paling goblok yg pernah gua tau. > >> > > >> >________________________________ > >> >From: item abu <itemabu@> > >> >To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > >> >Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 2:52 AM > >> >Subject: [proletar] Raymond Ibrahim: Are slave-girls in Islam equivalent > >> >to animals? > >> > > >> > > >> >à> >> >Islam ngehalalin orang Islam (cowoknya, bukan ceweknya) ngembat apa yg > >> >jadi > >> >milik tangan kanannya. Kata ganti yg dipakai di "milik tangan kanan" > >> >adalah kata > >> >ganti unt benda atau binatang, bukan kata ganti unt orang. > >> >à> >> >Apa artinya dgn dipakainya kata ganti unt benda atau binatang ini? > >> >à> >> >Ada 2 kemungkinan, pertama budak itu dianggap sbg binatang, bukan sbg > >> >manusia. > >> >Ini masuk akal, krn kalo bini aja bisa digarap sesuka hati dan digebukin > >> >kalo > >> >dicurigai ga setia, apalagi budak. > >> >à> >> >Yg kedua, auloh emang ngehalalin ngembat binatang milik tangan kanan > >> >orang > >> >Islam. Ini jg masuk akal, krn ahli2 Islam suka ngomong bhw kontol itu hrs > >> >dicuci > >> >kalo habis ngembat binatang yg berarti binatang itu emang boleh diembat. > >> >à> >> >Tinggal pilih aja mau yg mana, kan di Islam itu banyak penafsiran Quran > >> >yg > >> >katanya detil dan jelas, orang Islam tinggal ngikutin aja penafsirannya > >> >masing2, > >> >ga usah takut unt dibantai oleh orang Islam yg ngikutin penafsiran yg > >> >lain > >> >selama ybs lbh kuat secara militer dibandingkan dgn yg lain. > >> >à> >> >http://www.jihadwatch.org/2008/12/raymond-ibrahim-are-slave-girls-in-islam-equivalent-to-animals.html > >> >à> >> >Raymond Ibrahim: Are slave-girls in Islam equivalent to animals? > >> >à> >> >Many are now aware that the Koranââ¬"that is, Allahââ¬â¢s > >> >wordââ¬"permits, not just polygamy, but forced concubinage (sex with > >> >captive women), according to Koran 4:3: ââ¬Å"Marry such women as seem > >> >good to you, two and three and four; but if you fear that you will not > >> >do justice, then only one, or what your right hands possess [captive > >> >women taken in war].ââ¬ï¿½ There is, however, an interesting, and very > >> >telling, linguistic aspect to this verse that is often > >> >overlookedââ¬"or intentionally obscured. The Arabic states: > >> >ââ¬Å"Ankahu [marry]ââ¬Â¦ma [what] malakat [possess] aymankum [your > >> >right hands].ââ¬ï¿½ > >> >à> >> >Oddly enough, the Arabic relative pronoun used to indicate these captive > >> >women is "ma": ma malakat aymankum, literally, ââ¬Å"what your right > >> >hands possessââ¬ï¿½ (see Shakirââ¬â¢s acclaimed English translation > >> >which most literally translates this). In Arabic, when one refers to a > >> >rational being (i.e., a human), the word used is min, which means > >> >ââ¬Å"who(ever)ââ¬ï¿½; ma, on the other hand, refers only to things > >> >or animalsââ¬"trees, rocks, dogs and catsââ¬"very much similar to > >> >the English ââ¬Å"it.ââ¬ï¿½ Thus, in proper Arabic the phrase might > >> >have been min malakat aymankum: ââ¬Å"who(ever) your rights hands > >> >possess.ââ¬ï¿½ > >> >à> >> >For long I assumed this was but a stylistic matter. However, the highly > >> >revered Islamic scholar al-Qurtubi (d.1273) also makes this observation > >> >in vol. 5, p.12 of his authoritative 20-volume Tafsir Al Koran (Exegesis > >> >of the Koran). He points out that members of the human race should be > >> >referred to with min (who), whereas only ââ¬Å"inanimate > >> >objectsââ¬ï¿½ or ââ¬Å"brute beastsââ¬ï¿½ should be referred to with > >> >ma (what). > >> >à> >> >Does this suggest that the Koranââ¬â¢s Arabicââ¬"touted as the most > >> >perfect Arabicââ¬"is flawed? Of course, no Muslim would allow for > >> >that. Nor need they, as this phenomenon (portraying concubines as > >> >non-human) accords well with a number of hadiths that place females and > >> >animals in the same category. Musnad Ibn Hanbal (vol. 2, p. 2992), for > >> >example, records Muhammad saying ââ¬Å"Women, dogs, and donkeys annul a > >> >manââ¬â¢s prayer.ââ¬ï¿½ Indeed, in Qurtubiââ¬â¢s same Tafsir > >> >(vol.15, p.172), after examining such hadiths, he writes, "A Woman may > >> >be likened to a sheepââ¬"even a cow or a camelââ¬"for all are > >> >ridden.ââ¬ï¿½ > >> >à> >> >Posted by Raymond on December 14, 2008 5:25 PM | 37 Comments > >> > > >> >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >> > > >> >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > ------------------------------------ Post message: [email protected] Subscribe : [email protected] Unsubscribe : [email protected] List owner : [email protected] Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! 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