Hehehe... suryana yg doyan judi dan pergi ke tempat pelacuran itu dipuji2 oleh orang Islam.
>________________________________ > From: johny_indon <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 4:36 PM >Subject: [proletar] Re: Raymond Ibrahim: Are slave-girls in Islam equivalent >to animals? > > > >ya iya lah. >suryana dan teddy itu veteran di prol, semua juga tau reputasi >dan kredibilitasnya. >mereka berdua bukan cuman santun, tapi hidupnya makmur. > >lah elu? > >elu anak baru kemaren sore udah petantang petenteng sok jago >mau melibas islam lah, ngebantai reza lah, ngebunuh teddy lah. > >elu itu preman kacangan yg ngga punya kerjaan setelah dipecat >majikan arab lu waktu jadi tki. > >ratusan kali ditanya gajinya berapa ngga pernah berani jawab. > >jusplik paling demen sama kecoa macem elu. >makanya lu dipuji habis sama parasit van leiden itu. >dan elu keliatannya girang banget dapet soulmate kayak si jusplik. > >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@...> wrote: >> >> Tentunya yg lu anggap cerdas dan santun itu model si suryana atau Teddy, >> bukan? >> >> >> >> >> >________________________________ >> > From: johny_indon <johny_indon@...> >> >To: [email protected] >> >Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 11:10 AM >> >Subject: [proletar] Re: Raymond Ibrahim: Are slave-girls in Islam >> >equivalent to animals? >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >temen gua yg kristen protestan banyak yg cerdas dan santun. >> >ngga tau kenapa, di prol yg ada malah yg kayak si item gini. >> >atau si item justru representasi dari kebanyakan kresten protestan yg >> >sebenarnya? >> >mudah2an sih bukan. >> > >> >--- In [email protected], Musik hari Ini <musikhariini@> wrote: >> >> >> >> Sesuai dengan omongan Johnny indo.....kalo elu mau promosi agama elu >> >> (kresten protestan) >> >> ya tunjukkanlah bahwa umat kresten protestan itu cerdas dan santun. >> >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: item abu <itemabu@> >> >> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >> >> Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 5:00 PM >> >> Subject: Re: [proletar] Raymond Ibrahim: Are slave-girls in Islam >> >> equivalent to animals? >> >> >> >> >> >>  >> >> Lu mau kaing2 kayak apapun, faktanya adalah kata ganti yg dipake unt >> >> ngerefer "milik tangan kanan" itu adalah kata ganti unt benda atau >> >> binatang. Jadi auloh bilang lu halal ngembat binatang milik tangan kanan >> >> lu. >> >> >> >> Ga bisa bantah dgn apa yg ada di jihadwatch.org lalu lu kaing2 kayak >> >> anjing kejepit buntut, ga beda dgn si habe yg kaing2 dia punya 2 buku >> >> Robert Spencer tp ga bisa bantah apa2. >> >> >> >> Yg tukang ngibul itu adalah orang Islam krn auloh ngehalalin ngibul dan >> >> emang auloh jg ngaku sbg tukang tipu. >> >> >> >> Apa bukannya lu yg kaing2 nabi pedophile lu ngebebasin 7000 budak tp ga >> >> ngasih referensi sama sekali yg nunjukin bhw lu ngibul? >> >> >> >> >________________________________ >> >> > From: Musik hari Ini <musikhariini@> >> >> >To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >> >> >Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 5:30 PM >> >> >Subject: Re: [proletar] Raymond Ibrahim: Are slave-girls in Islam >> >> >equivalent to animals? >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >Omong kosong lu baca yang kagak masuk akal jihadwatch.org >> >> >sampah itu yang lu sumpelin keotak lu,buka otaklu lebar2 makanya >> >> >debat kok cuma pantat melulu yang elu bawa2 >> >> > >> >> >sesuai dengan omongan Johnny indo.....kalo elu mau promosi agama elu >> >> >(kresten protestan) >> >> >ya tunjukkanlah bahwa umat kresten protestan itu cerdas dan santun. >> >> > >> >> >terus2an nyerang islam, atau bilang katolik itu brengsek, >> >> >ngga bakalan bikin orang simpati sama agama yg lagi elu jual, yg terjadi >> >> >malah jadi sebaliknya. >> >> > >> >> >elu itu salesman paling goblok yg pernah gua tau. >> >> > >> >> >________________________________ >> >> >From: item abu <itemabu@> >> >> >To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >> >> >Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 2:52 AM >> >> >Subject: [proletar] Raymond Ibrahim: Are slave-girls in Islam equivalent >> >> >to animals? >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >Islam ngehalalin orang Islam (cowoknya, bukan ceweknya) ngembat apa yg >> >> >jadi >> >> >milik tangan kanannya. Kata ganti yg dipakai di "milik tangan kanan" >> >> >adalah kata >> >> >ganti unt benda atau binatang, bukan kata ganti unt orang. >> >> > >> >> >Apa artinya dgn dipakainya kata ganti unt benda atau binatang ini? >> >> > >> >> >Ada 2 kemungkinan, pertama budak itu dianggap sbg binatang, bukan sbg >> >> >manusia. >> >> >Ini masuk akal, krn kalo bini aja bisa digarap sesuka hati dan digebukin >> >> >kalo >> >> >dicurigai ga setia, apalagi budak. >> >> > >> >> >Yg kedua, auloh emang ngehalalin ngembat binatang milik tangan kanan >> >> >orang >> >> >Islam. Ini jg masuk akal, krn ahli2 Islam suka ngomong bhw kontol itu >> >> >hrs dicuci >> >> >kalo habis ngembat binatang yg berarti binatang itu emang boleh diembat. >> >> > >> >> >Tinggal pilih aja mau yg mana, kan di Islam itu banyak penafsiran Quran >> >> >yg >> >> >katanya detil dan jelas, orang Islam tinggal ngikutin aja penafsirannya >> >> >masing2, >> >> >ga usah takut unt dibantai oleh orang Islam yg ngikutin penafsiran yg >> >> >lain >> >> >selama ybs lbh kuat secara militer dibandingkan dgn yg lain. >> >> > >> >> >http://www.jihadwatch.org/2008/12/raymond-ibrahim-are-slave-girls-in-islam-equivalent-to-animals.html >> >> > >> >> >Raymond Ibrahim: Are slave-girls in Islam equivalent to animals? >> >> > >> >> >Many are now aware that the Koranâ€"that is, Allah’s >> >> >wordâ€"permits, not just polygamy, but forced concubinage (sex with >> >> >captive women), according to Koran 4:3: â€Å"Marry such women as seem >> >> >good to you, two and three and four; but if you fear that you will not >> >> >do justice, then only one, or what your right hands possess [captive >> >> >women taken in war].� There is, however, an interesting, and >> >> >very telling, linguistic aspect to this verse that is often >> >> >overlookedâ€"or intentionally obscured. The Arabic states: >> >> >â€Å"Ankahu [marry]…ma [what] malakat [possess] aymankum [your >> >> >right hands].� >> >> > >> >> >Oddly enough, the Arabic relative pronoun used to indicate these >> >> >captive women is "ma": ma malakat aymankum, literally, â€Å"what your >> >> >right hands possess� (see Shakir’s acclaimed English >> >> >translation which most literally translates this). In Arabic, when one >> >> >refers to a rational being (i.e., a human), the word used is min, which >> >> >means â€Å"who(ever)�; ma, on the other hand, refers only to >> >> >things or animalsâ€"trees, rocks, dogs and catsâ€"very much >> >> >similar to the English â€Å"it.� Thus, in proper Arabic the >> >> >phrase might have been min malakat aymankum: â€Å"who(ever) your >> >> >rights hands possess.� >> >> > >> >> >For long I assumed this was but a stylistic matter. However, the highly >> >> >revered Islamic scholar al-Qurtubi (d.1273) also makes this observation >> >> >in vol. 5, p.12 of his authoritative 20-volume Tafsir Al Koran >> >> >(Exegesis of the Koran). He points out that members of the human race >> >> >should be referred to with min (who), whereas only â€Å"inanimate >> >> >objects� or â€Å"brute beasts� should be referred to >> >> >with ma (what). >> >> > >> >> >Does this suggest that the Koran’s Arabicâ€"touted as the most >> >> >perfect Arabicâ€"is flawed? Of course, no Muslim would allow for >> >> >that. Nor need they, as this phenomenon (portraying concubines as >> >> >non-human) accords well with a number of hadiths that place females and >> >> >animals in the same category. Musnad Ibn Hanbal (vol. 2, p. 2992), for >> >> >example, records Muhammad saying â€Å"Women, dogs, and donkeys annul >> >> >a man’s prayer.� Indeed, in Qurtubi’s same Tafsir >> >> >(vol.15, p.172), after examining such hadiths, he writes, "A Woman may >> >> >be likened to a sheepâ€"even a cow or a camelâ€"for all are >> >> >ridden.� >> >> > >> >> >Posted by Raymond on December 14, 2008 5:25 PM | 37 Comments >> >> > >> >> >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> > >> >> >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Post message: [email protected] Subscribe : [email protected] Unsubscribe : [email protected] List owner : [email protected] Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! 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