Hehehe... suryana yg doyan judi dan pergi ke tempat pelacuran itu dipuji2 oleh 
orang Islam.




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> From: johny_indon <[email protected]>
>To: [email protected] 
>Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 4:36 PM
>Subject: [proletar] Re: Raymond Ibrahim: Are slave-girls in Islam equivalent 
>to animals?
> 
>
>  
>ya iya lah.
>suryana dan teddy itu veteran di prol, semua juga tau reputasi 
>dan kredibilitasnya.
>mereka berdua bukan cuman santun, tapi hidupnya makmur.
>
>lah elu?
>
>elu anak baru kemaren sore udah petantang petenteng sok jago 
>mau melibas islam lah, ngebantai reza lah, ngebunuh teddy lah.
>
>elu itu preman kacangan yg ngga punya kerjaan setelah dipecat 
>majikan arab lu waktu jadi tki.
>
>ratusan kali ditanya gajinya berapa ngga pernah berani jawab.
>
>jusplik paling demen sama kecoa macem elu.
>makanya lu dipuji habis sama parasit van leiden itu.
>dan elu keliatannya girang banget dapet soulmate kayak si jusplik.
>
>--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@...> wrote:
>>
>> Tentunya yg lu anggap cerdas dan santun itu model si suryana atau Teddy, 
>> bukan?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> >________________________________
>> > From: johny_indon <johny_indon@...>
>> >To: [email protected] 
>> >Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 11:10 AM
>> >Subject: [proletar] Re: Raymond Ibrahim: Are slave-girls in Islam 
>> >equivalent to animals?
>> > 
>> >
>> >  
>> >
>> >
>> >temen gua yg kristen protestan banyak yg cerdas dan santun.
>> >ngga tau kenapa, di prol yg ada malah yg kayak si item gini.
>> >atau si item justru representasi dari kebanyakan kresten protestan yg 
>> >sebenarnya?
>> >mudah2an sih bukan.
>> >
>> >--- In [email protected], Musik hari Ini <musikhariini@> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Sesuai dengan omongan Johnny indo.....kalo elu mau promosi agama elu 
>> >> (kresten protestan) 
>> >> ya tunjukkanlah bahwa umat kresten protestan itu cerdas dan santun.
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> ________________________________
>> >>  From: item abu <itemabu@>
>> >> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> 
>> >> Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 5:00 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: [proletar] Raymond Ibrahim: Are slave-girls in Islam 
>> >> equivalent to animals?
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >>   
>> >> Lu mau kaing2 kayak apapun, faktanya adalah kata ganti yg dipake unt 
>> >> ngerefer "milik tangan kanan" itu adalah kata ganti unt benda atau 
>> >> binatang. Jadi auloh bilang lu halal ngembat binatang milik tangan kanan 
>> >> lu.
>> >> 
>> >> Ga bisa bantah dgn apa yg ada di jihadwatch.org lalu lu kaing2 kayak 
>> >> anjing kejepit buntut, ga beda dgn si habe yg kaing2 dia punya 2 buku 
>> >> Robert Spencer tp ga bisa bantah apa2.
>> >> 
>> >> Yg tukang ngibul itu adalah orang Islam krn auloh ngehalalin ngibul dan 
>> >> emang auloh jg ngaku sbg tukang tipu.
>> >> 
>> >> Apa bukannya lu yg kaing2 nabi pedophile lu ngebebasin 7000 budak tp ga 
>> >> ngasih referensi sama sekali yg nunjukin bhw lu ngibul?
>> >> 
>> >> >________________________________
>> >> > From: Musik hari Ini <musikhariini@>
>> >> >To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> 
>> >> >Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 5:30 PM
>> >> >Subject: Re: [proletar] Raymond Ibrahim: Are slave-girls in Islam 
>> >> >equivalent to animals?
>> >> > 
>> >> >
>> >> >  
>> >> >Omong kosong lu baca yang kagak masuk akal jihadwatch.org
>> >> >sampah itu yang lu sumpelin keotak lu,buka otaklu lebar2 makanya
>> >> >debat kok cuma pantat melulu yang elu bawa2
>> >> >
>> >> >sesuai dengan omongan Johnny indo.....kalo elu mau promosi agama elu 
>> >> >(kresten protestan) 
>> >> >ya tunjukkanlah bahwa umat kresten protestan itu cerdas dan santun.
>> >> >
>> >> >terus2an nyerang islam, atau bilang katolik itu brengsek,
>> >> >ngga bakalan bikin orang simpati sama agama yg lagi elu jual, yg terjadi 
>> >> >malah jadi sebaliknya.
>> >> >
>> >> >elu itu salesman paling goblok yg pernah gua tau.
>> >> >
>> >> >________________________________
>> >> >From: item abu <itemabu@>
>> >> >To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> 
>> >> >Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 2:52 AM
>> >> >Subject: [proletar] Raymond Ibrahim: Are slave-girls in Islam equivalent 
>> >> >to animals?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >  
>> >> >Islam ngehalalin orang Islam (cowoknya, bukan ceweknya) ngembat apa yg 
>> >> >jadi 
>> >> >milik tangan kanannya. Kata ganti yg dipakai di "milik tangan kanan" 
>> >> >adalah kata 
>> >> >ganti unt benda atau binatang, bukan kata ganti unt orang.
>> >> > 
>> >> >Apa artinya dgn dipakainya kata ganti unt benda atau binatang ini? 
>> >> > 
>> >> >Ada 2 kemungkinan, pertama budak itu dianggap sbg binatang, bukan sbg 
>> >> >manusia. 
>> >> >Ini masuk akal, krn kalo bini aja bisa digarap sesuka hati dan digebukin 
>> >> >kalo 
>> >> >dicurigai ga setia, apalagi budak.
>> >> > 
>> >> >Yg kedua, auloh emang ngehalalin ngembat binatang milik tangan kanan 
>> >> >orang 
>> >> >Islam. Ini jg masuk akal, krn ahli2 Islam suka ngomong bhw kontol itu 
>> >> >hrs dicuci 
>> >> >kalo habis ngembat binatang yg berarti binatang itu emang boleh diembat.
>> >> > 
>> >> >Tinggal pilih aja mau yg mana, kan di Islam itu banyak penafsiran Quran 
>> >> >yg 
>> >> >katanya detil dan jelas, orang Islam tinggal ngikutin aja penafsirannya 
>> >> >masing2, 
>> >> >ga usah takut unt dibantai oleh orang Islam yg ngikutin penafsiran yg 
>> >> >lain 
>> >> >selama ybs lbh kuat secara militer dibandingkan dgn yg lain.
>> >> > 
>> >> >http://www.jihadwatch.org/2008/12/raymond-ibrahim-are-slave-girls-in-islam-equivalent-to-animals.html
>> >> > 
>> >> >Raymond Ibrahim: Are  slave-girls in Islam equivalent to animals?
>> >> > 
>> >> >Many are now aware that the Koranâ€"that is, Allah’s 
>> >> >wordâ€"permits, not  just polygamy, but forced concubinage (sex with 
>> >> >captive women),  according to Koran 4:3: â€Å"Marry such women as seem 
>> >> >good to you, two and  three and four; but if you fear that you will not 
>> >> >do justice, then only  one, or what your right hands possess [captive 
>> >> >women taken in war].�  There is, however, an interesting, and 
>> >> >very telling, linguistic aspect  to this verse that is often 
>> >> >overlookedâ€"or intentionally obscured. The  Arabic states: 
>> >> >â€Å"Ankahu [marry]…ma [what] malakat [possess] aymankum  [your 
>> >> >right hands].� 
>> >> > 
>> >> >Oddly enough, the Arabic relative pronoun used to indicate these  
>> >> >captive women is "ma": ma malakat aymankum, literally, â€Å"what your 
>> >> >right hands possess� (see Shakir’s acclaimed English 
>> >> >translation which most literally translates this). In  Arabic, when one 
>> >> >refers to a rational being (i.e., a human), the word  used is min, which 
>> >> >means â€Å"who(ever)�; ma, on the other  hand, refers only to 
>> >> >things or animalsâ€"trees, rocks, dogs and catsâ€"very  much 
>> >> >similar to the English â€Å"it.� Thus, in proper Arabic the 
>> >> >phrase  might have been min malakat aymankum: â€Å"who(ever) your 
>> >> >rights  hands possess.� 
>> >> > 
>> >> >For long I assumed this was but a stylistic matter. However, the  highly 
>> >> >revered Islamic scholar al-Qurtubi (d.1273) also makes this  observation 
>> >> >in vol. 5, p.12 of his authoritative 20-volume Tafsir Al  Koran 
>> >> >(Exegesis of the Koran). He points out that members of the  human race 
>> >> >should be referred to with min (who), whereas only  â€Å"inanimate 
>> >> >objects� or â€Å"brute beasts� should be referred to 
>> >> >with ma (what). 
>> >> > 
>> >> >Does this suggest that the Koran’s Arabicâ€"touted as the most 
>> >> >perfect  Arabicâ€"is flawed? Of course, no Muslim would allow for 
>> >> >that. Nor need  they, as this phenomenon (portraying concubines as 
>> >> >non-human) accords  well with a number of hadiths that place females and 
>> >> >animals in the same  category. Musnad Ibn Hanbal (vol. 2, p. 2992), for 
>> >> >example,  records Muhammad saying â€Å"Women, dogs, and donkeys annul 
>> >> >a man’s prayer.�  Indeed, in Qurtubi’s same Tafsir 
>> >> >(vol.15, p.172), after  examining such hadiths, he writes, "A Woman may 
>> >> >be likened to a  sheepâ€"even a cow or a camelâ€"for all are 
>> >> >ridden.�
>> >> > 
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