gua kan ngga nyebut2 nama elu plik. cuman bilang "bininya item lagi di leiden". emang penduduk leiden elu doang? atau elu ingin menunjukkan sesuatu pada si item?
kayaknya makin terbukti nih... --- In [email protected], "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@...> wrote: > > > Sekedar mengingatkan... > > Dengan berbaik sangka tadinya saya kira johny-indon itu sekedar > korban didikan > bapaknya yang serdadu dan yang, tentu saja, diajar membunuh manusia > dan yang > berkemungkinan pernah memimpin pembantaian atau ikut melakukan > pembataian yang > begitu sering dilakukan serdadu Indonesia... > > Atau korupsi besar-besaran, yang juga sering dilakukan serdadu > Indonesia.. > > Atau dua-duanya: pernah memimpin atau ikut pembantaian dan korupsi > besar-besaran. > > Yang jelas, bapak johny-indon itu adalah serdadu yang buas, begitu > buasnya, > begitu biadabnya, begitu kejamnya, begitu kejinya dan begitu ganasnya > hingga dia > tega-teganya memperlakukana anaknya kayak anjing budug dengan > menendang > johny-indo hingga terkencing-kencing... > > Jadi, saya kira tadinya, otak johny-indo itu sekedar ciut hingga, by > a a manner > of speaking, menjadi sekecil biji peler anjing chihuahua.. > > Dan kelakuan johny-indo itu memang mirip kayak anjing: demen > menggongong asal > menyalak. > > Mikir, dia jelas tidak bisa. > > Tapi ternyata keadaan johny-indon itu jauh lebih parah: otaknya jelas > sudah > rusak berat dan jadi busuk, nista lagi menjijikkan. > > Jelasnya: johny-indon itu bukan manusia waras. > > Begitu rusak otaknya hingga dia tidak tahu, antara lain, bahwa sumo > itu adalah > sport orang Jepang dan Marlene itu adalah nama perempuan. > > Dan seperti rezameutia juga, johny-indon itu jelas adalah psikopat > yang demen > memfitnah dan pamer isi otaknya yang sudah rusak dan jadi busuk, > nista lagi > menjijikan itu. > > > --- In [email protected], "johny_indon" <johny_indon@> wrote: > > > > > > > > bininya si item lagi di leiden ngga bisa pulang kampung. > > tiap pulang kampung dideportasi mulu. > > kesian ya. > > > > --- In [email protected], "arra_s" <arra_s@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > hari gini lu masih ngais ngais mahar? > > > hehehe.. percuma dah lu hidup di jaman internet.. > > > jaman dimana urusan duit, jadi semakin mudah.. > > > > > > cewek yg lu sebut di bawah ini nggak pernah mikirin ttg mahar dan > > > pesangon.. malah baru denger klo cerai ada pesangon.. > > > PHK kali yg ada pesangon nya.. > > > > > > lu punya bini ngga Tem.. kalo punya hehe pastinya lu sering di kibulin > > > si bini.. karena lu ngga tahu kan... kalau > > > perempuan jaman sekarang punya hobby baru.. nge cek saldo.. > > > > > > kalo nasib beda, cara mikir juga beda Tem.. > > > makanya jualan lu ngga laku disini.. > > > nasib beda sih.. > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Tentunya si arra_s sbg orang Islam yg baik akan bilang bhw Islam > > > > didiskriminasi di Inggris krn ga bisa make hukum syariat dlm kasus > > > > perceraian ini di mana cewek yg dicerai diputuskan hrs dpt uangdr bekas > > > > suaminya. > > > > > > > > Nurut Islam, cewek yg dicerai itu udah dihormati dgn boleh tetap > > > > memiliki mahar yg didptnya krn udah diembat oleh bekas suaminya, > > > > paling2 dikasih pesangon sekedarnya unt hiburan. Beda dgn hukum kafir > > > > laknatuloh yg mengharuskan si cewek dpt harta bekas suaminya. > > > > > > > > Hukum harta gono gini ini jg diterapkan di Indonesia, makanya pejihad2 > > > > Islam mau ngeganti hukum bejad ini dgn hukum auloh spy cewek2 bisa lbh > > > > terhormat dgn kalo dicerai pake 3 kata, si cewek ga dpt apa2 lagi > > > > selain apa yg jadi haknya, yaitu mahar. > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2179041/You-use-sharia-law-divorce-deal-Muslim-hospital-consultant-told-pay-ex-wife-maintenance-despite-claims-owes-Islamic-rules.html#ixzz21hmJea7Z > > > > > > > > > > > > You can't use sharia law in divorce deal: Muslim hospital consultant > > > > told to pay ex-wife maintenance despite claims he owes her nothing > > > > under Islamic rules > > > > > > > > * Dr Zaid Al-Saffar told he must follow 'the rule in this > > > > country' > > > > > > > > * Ordered to pay £60,000 to his former wife, academic Hanan > > > > Al-Saffar > > > > * He felt the payments were illegitimate according to Islamic > > > > culture > > > > * Claims: 'Family law in this country is biased against Muslim > > > > peopleâ > > > > By Steve Doughty > > > > PUBLISHED: 23:04 GMT, 25 July 2012 | UPDATED: 23:58 GMT, 25 July 2012 > > > > > > > > Read more: > > > > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2179041/You-use-sharia-law-divorce-deal-Muslim-hospital-consultant-told-pay-ex-wife-maintenance-despite-claims-owes-Islamic-rules.html#ixzz21lCCLGOG > > > > > > > > > > > > A Muslim hospital consultant was told yesterday that he must pay his > > > > ex-wife maintenance even though under > > > > Islamic rules he believes he owes her nothing. > > > > > > > > A judge told Dr Zaid Al-Saffar that he must follow âthe rule in this > > > > countryâ and share his money. > > > > > > > > > > > > The Appeal Court decision means Dr Al-Saffar must pay £60,000 to his > > > > former wife, academic Hanan Al-Saffar. > > > > > > > > > > > > The ruling sounded a warning to Muslim couples who believe their > > > > marriages > > > > are ordered according to sharia law and agree to be bound by Islamic > > > > courts. > > > > > > > > > > > > Lord Justice Ward told Dr Al-Saffar: âThe rule in this country is > > > > that you share and the starting point is equal division. > > > > > > > > > > > > âYou came out of the marriage without having made your wife any > > > > substantial capital payment.â > > > > > > > > > > > > He added: âLife is sometimes hard; do not be consumed with > > > > bitterness.â > > > > > > > > > > > > But Dr Al-Saffar said after the case: âBy playing the system and > > > > pretending to be a victim she got everything, which I think is totally > > > > unfair. > > > > > > > > âFamily law in this country is biased against Muslim people.â > > > > > > > > > > > > The consultant rheumatologist at Scarborough Hospital in North > > > > Yorkshire, > > > > who is also the head of the Islamic Society in the resort town, was > > > > married for eight years, and the couple had two children. > > > > > > > > > > > > The marriage was formalised following the Islamic tradition of Mahr, > > > > under which the groom pays a gift to his bride. > > > > > > > > > > > > Because of this, his wife had signed away her share of the coupleâs > > > > home in Belvedere Road, in Scarborough. > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr Al-Saffar also assumed he had no > > > > obligation to make maintenance payments, and that, following Islamic > > > > practice, his former wifeâs family would support her. > > > > > > > > However, after the marriage fell apart in 2008, a county court judge > > > > ordered him to pay £60,000 to his wife in a hearing to settle the > > > > legal terms of > > > > their break-up. > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr Al-Saffar made payments for only four months but then contested the > > > > decision. > > > > > > > > In > > > > the Appeal Court, he told Lord Justice Ward that he had stopped paying > > > > because he had heard his former wife had inherited £250,000 from her > > > > father and had become âvery, very well offâ. > > > > > > > > Dr Al-Saffar, who represented himself, told the court: âI have > > > > nothing but respect for the courtâs order, but I only stopped paying > > > > because all > > > > her family were telling me sheâs got millions. She doesnât need > > > > it.â > > > > > > > > But the judge said the doctor had > > > > been determined not to pay because âhe felt the payments were > > > > illegitimate or illegal according to Islamic cultureâ. > > > > > > > > > > > > Lord Justice Ward said: âThe husband has kept the whole of the > > > > capital in > > > > the marital home and the wife has not received any of it. > > > > > > > > âIn those circumstances the order for spousal maintenance was a > > > > perfectly proper and fair order to make.â > > > > > > > > > > > > The judge added: âThe husband has to try to understand that inherited > > > > wealth is not available for distribution, especially when it comes in > > > > after or shortly before the breakdown of the marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > 'That would not reduce the husbandâs obligation to make a proper > > > > contribution to his wife.â > > > > > > > > > > > > âI must dismiss this application,â Lord Justice Ward said. > > > > > > > > > > > > An unknown number of Muslim couples take their family disputes to > > > > sharia > > > > tribunals, usually run under the umbrella of local mosques. There are > > > > said to be around 85 operating in Britain. > > > > > > > > > > > > They operate voluntarily, but critics say women may be disadvantaged if > > > > they agree to accept Islamic rules. > > > > > > > > > > > > At present, if a sharia court settles a marriage dispute, an official > > > > law > > > > court has to approve the arrangement before the divorce is finalised. > > > > > > > > > > > > The judge must decide whether it is reasonable and ensure neither party > > > > is disadvantaged. > > > > > > > > > > > > But agreements are submitted to the family court on a form just two > > > > pages long. The couple do not need to attend court. > > > > > > > > > > > > The great majority are approved and critics say this process can amount > > > > to no more than rubber-stamping. > > > > > > > > > > > > Four years ago Archbishop of Canterbury Dr Rowan Williams caused > > > > controversy when he said that full acceptance of sharia courts âseems > > > > unavoidableâ. > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Post message: [email protected] Subscribe : [email protected] Unsubscribe : [email protected] List owner : [email protected] Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! 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