Jadi orang tua "arra_s" ini juga adalah manusia dungud-dungu kayak anjing yang
bersedia jadi korban kibulan orang Arab primitif yang membual bilagn khurafah
najis al-Mushaf itu berisi wahyu allah yang nota bene cuma tahayul hasial
khayalan orang arab primitif itu...
Udah orang tuanya dungu-dungu kayak anjing otak "arra_s" itu jelas juga bukan
otak manusia normal yang bisa dipakai buat berfikir, karena di zaman internet
dan jaman yang punya LHC ini dia, seperti orang tuanya, masih mau menjadikan
sebagai kitab suci khurafah najis yang membual allah tahayul hasil khayalan
orang Arab primitif itu menciptakan bumi yang mereka khayakan tujuh lapis dan
langit yang mereka kyalalkan tujuh lapis pula..
Kasihan melihagt ada manusia super dungu seperti "arra_s" ini.
--- In [email protected], "arra_s" <arra_s@...> wrote:
>
>
> gw belajar agama dari orang tua sendiri, makanya hasilnya optimal..
> lu tahu kenapa hasilnya maksimal?
> karena ortu gw mengajar anak anak nya sendiri dengan kasih sayang, tanpa
> pamrih, tidak munafik dan dengan cerdas...
>
> makanya melihat isi copas dan komentar elu di milis ini, gw langsung tahu
> kalau elu itu dungu..
> entah darimana dimulainya kedunguan ini, apakah dari ustad yg ngajarin elu,
> berarti elu menjadi dungu kuadrat.. atau lebih ke atas lagi, gurunya si
> ustad, berarti elu menjadi dungu pangkat 3..
>
> tapi gw lebih yakin, kalau kedunguan ini dimulai dari elu.. karena sara
> agama, 20 tahun yg lalu belum kedengaran..
>
>
> --- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote:
> >
> > Lu pasti ga pernah belajar Islam, mungkin ustad lu anggap lu ini sbg cewek
> > cuma punya 1/2 akal alias idiot, ga ada guna ngajarin lu.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >________________________________
> > > From: arra_s <arra_s@>
> > >To: [email protected]
> > >Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 6:31 AM
> > >Subject: [proletar] Re: Islam didiskriminasi di Inggris, hehehe...
> > >
> > >
> > >Â
> > >
> > >hari gini lu masih ngais ngais mahar?
> > >hehehe.. percuma dah lu hidup di jaman internet..
> > >jaman dimana urusan duit, jadi semakin mudah..
> > >
> > >cewek yg lu sebut di bawah ini nggak pernah mikirin ttg mahar dan
> > >pesangon.. malah baru denger klo cerai ada pesangon..
> > >PHK kali yg ada pesangon nya..
> > >
> > >lu punya bini ngga Tem.. kalo punya hehe pastinya lu sering di kibulin si
> > >bini.. karena lu ngga tahu kan... kalau
> > >perempuan jaman sekarang punya hobby baru.. nge cek saldo..
> > >
> > >kalo nasib beda, cara mikir juga beda Tem..
> > >makanya jualan lu ngga laku disini..
> > >nasib beda sih..
> > >
> > >
> > >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Tentunya si arra_s sbg orang Islam yg baik akan bilang bhw Islam
> > >> didiskriminasi di Inggris krn ga bisa make hukum syariat dlm kasus
> > >> perceraian ini di mana cewek yg dicerai diputuskan hrs dpt uangdr bekas
> > >> suaminya.
> > >>
> > >> Nurut Islam, cewek yg dicerai itu udah dihormati dgn boleh tetap
> > >> memiliki mahar yg didptnya krn udah diembat oleh bekas suaminya, paling2
> > >> dikasih pesangon sekedarnya unt hiburan. Beda dgn hukum kafir laknatuloh
> > >> yg mengharuskan si cewek dpt harta bekas suaminya.
> > >>
> > >> Hukum harta gono gini ini jg diterapkan di Indonesia, makanya pejihad2
> > >> Islam mau ngeganti hukum bejad ini dgn hukum auloh spy cewek2 bisa lbh
> > >> terhormat dgn kalo dicerai pake 3 kata, si cewek ga dpt apa2 lagi selain
> > >> apa yg jadi haknya, yaitu mahar.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2179041/You-use-sharia-law-divorce-deal-Muslim-hospital-consultant-told-pay-ex-wife-maintenance-despite-claims-owes-Islamic-rules.html#ixzz21hmJea7Z
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> You can't use sharia law in divorce deal: Muslim hospital consultant
> > >> told to pay ex-wife maintenance despite claims he owes her nothing
> > >> under Islamic rules
> > >>
> > >> * Dr Zaid Al-Saffar told he must follow 'the rule in this country'
> > >>
> > >> * Ordered to pay ã60,000 to his former wife, academic Hanan Al-Saffar
> > >> * He felt the payments were illegitimate according to Islamic culture
> > >> * Claims: 'Family law in this country is biased against Muslim
> > >> peopleââ¬â¢
> > >> By Steve Doughty
> > >> PUBLISHED: 23:04 GMT, 25 July 2012 | UPDATED: 23:58 GMT, 25 July 2012
> > >>
> > >> Read more:
> > >> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2179041/You-use-sharia-law-divorce-deal-Muslim-hospital-consultant-told-pay-ex-wife-maintenance-despite-claims-owes-Islamic-rules.html#ixzz21lCCLGOG
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> A Muslim hospital consultant was told yesterday that he must pay his
> > >> ex-wife maintenance even though under
> > >> Islamic rules he believes he owes her nothing.
> > >>
> > >> A judge told Dr Zaid Al-Saffar that he must follow ââ¬Ëthe rule in
> > >> this countryââ¬â¢ and share his money.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> The Appeal Court decision means Dr Al-Saffar must pay ã60,000 to his
> > >> former wife, academic Hanan Al-Saffar.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> The ruling sounded a warning to Muslim couples who believe their
> > >> marriages
> > >> are ordered according to sharia law and agree to be bound by Islamic
> > >> courts.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Lord Justice Ward told Dr Al-Saffar: ââ¬ËThe rule in this country is
> > >> that you share and the starting point is equal division.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ââ¬ËYou came out of the marriage without having made your wife any
> > >> substantial capital payment.ââ¬â¢
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> He added: ââ¬ËLife is sometimes hard; do not be consumed with
> > >> bitterness.ââ¬â¢
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> But Dr Al-Saffar said after the case: ââ¬ËBy playing the system and
> > >> pretending to be a victim she got everything, which I think is totally
> > >> unfair.
> > >>
> > >> ââ¬ËFamily law in this country is biased against Muslim
> > >> people.ââ¬â¢
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> The consultant rheumatologist at Scarborough Hospital in North
> > >> Yorkshire,
> > >> who is also the head of the Islamic Society in the resort town, was
> > >> married for eight years, and the couple had two children.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> The marriage was formalised following the Islamic tradition of Mahr,
> > >> under which the groom pays a gift to his bride.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Because of this, his wife had signed away her share of the
> > >> coupleââ¬â¢s home in Belvedere Road, in Scarborough.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Dr Al-Saffar also assumed he had no
> > >> obligation to make maintenance payments, and that, following Islamic
> > >> practice, his former wifeââ¬â¢s family would support her.
> > >>
> > >> However, after the marriage fell apart in 2008, a county court judge
> > >> ordered him to pay ã60,000 to his wife in a hearing to settle the
> > >> legal terms of
> > >> their break-up.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Dr Al-Saffar made payments for only four months but then contested the
> > >> decision.
> > >>
> > >> In
> > >> the Appeal Court, he told Lord Justice Ward that he had stopped paying
> > >> because he had heard his former wife had inherited ã250,000 from her
> > >> father and had become ââ¬Ëvery, very well offââ¬â¢.
> > >>
> > >> Dr Al-Saffar, who represented himself, told the court: ââ¬ËI have
> > >> nothing but respect for the courtââ¬â¢s order, but I only stopped
> > >> paying because all
> > >> her family were telling me sheââ¬â¢s got millions. She doesnââ¬â¢t
> > >> need it.ââ¬â¢
> > >>
> > >> But the judge said the doctor had
> > >> been determined not to pay because ââ¬Ëhe felt the payments were
> > >> illegitimate or illegal according to Islamic cultureââ¬â¢.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Lord Justice Ward said: ââ¬ËThe husband has kept the whole of the
> > >> capital in
> > >> the marital home and the wife has not received any of it.
> > >>
> > >> ââ¬ËIn those circumstances the order for spousal maintenance was a
> > >> perfectly proper and fair order to make.ââ¬â¢
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> The judge added: ââ¬ËThe husband has to try to understand that
> > >> inherited
> > >> wealth is not available for distribution, especially when it comes in
> > >> after or shortly before the breakdown of the marriage.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> 'That would not reduce the husbandââ¬â¢s obligation to make a proper
> > >> contribution to his wife.ââ¬â¢
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ââ¬ËI must dismiss this application,ââ¬â¢ Lord Justice Ward said.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> An unknown number of Muslim couples take their family disputes to sharia
> > >> tribunals, usually run under the umbrella of local mosques. There are
> > >> said to be around 85 operating in Britain.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> They operate voluntarily, but critics say women may be disadvantaged if
> > >> they agree to accept Islamic rules.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> At present, if a sharia court settles a marriage dispute, an official
> > >> law
> > >> court has to approve the arrangement before the divorce is finalised.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> The judge must decide whether it is reasonable and ensure neither party
> > >> is disadvantaged.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> But agreements are submitted to the family court on a form just two
> > >> pages long. The couple do not need to attend court.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> The great majority are approved and critics say this process can amount
> > >> to no more than rubber-stamping.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Four years ago Archbishop of Canterbury Dr Rowan Williams caused
> > >> controversy when he said that full acceptance of sharia courts
> > >> ââ¬Ëseems unavoidableââ¬â¢.
> > >>
> > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
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